Let the Lawsuits Begin
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Let the Lawsuits Begin
From Cyril Huze Blog ...
http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2018/02/15/...rley-davidson/
The lawyers are smackin' their chops over H-D brake issues. And this was filed in Texas (well Austin, does that count?).
http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2018/02/15/...rley-davidson/
The lawyers are smackin' their chops over H-D brake issues. And this was filed in Texas (well Austin, does that count?).
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Feb 16, 2018, 07:27 AM
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Just because a person changes the fluid doesnt mean the ABS system cant fail. The current recall is just the start of HD backpedaling, basically blaming their customers for a failed ABS system design.
Last edited by Cygnusx51; Feb 16, 2018 at 07:29 AM.
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I thought the "recall" was really just a bogus way to get folks to swap out old fluids that they should have been, according to regular maintenance recommendations? If so... gonna be a lot of disappointed lawyers.
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I'm pretty sure the recall will include more models, up to and including 2013 models the same brake hydraulic control unit is used in the 2013 models. Now HD has a "Premium" Dot 4 brake fluid available. So sure sounds like they may be up to something.
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Just because a person changes the fluid doesnt mean the ABS system cant fail. The current recall is just the start of HD backpedaling, basically blaming their customers for a failed ABS system design.
Last edited by Cygnusx51; Feb 16, 2018 at 07:29 AM.
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There’s more than just the fluid change issue at hand here though. Under failure of an ABS system, the brakes should still work, just no ABS capabilities. In HD’s case, when the ABS system fails, it locks the brakes from working at all, basically bricking the lines and lever. If anything, this is where you’ll see people suing because the system’s operability was misrepresented by HD.
Just because a person changes the fluid doesn’t mean the ABS system can’t fail. The current “recall” is just the start of HD backpedaling, basically blaming their customers for a failed ABS system design.
HD deserves to be sued for selling an ABS system that doesn't have residual braking capability when the ABS unit fails. All the "Owner Neglect" crap is nothing but an attempt by HD to duck the real issue; Brake Failure. No other vehicle manufacturer on the planet has a system like that. A front brake failure is a loss of up to 70% of braking capacity (conservatively).
By all means, be a HD/Jim Jones kool aid drinker; smugly quote the HD party line and get the next half baked, dangerous design Harley "engineers" come up with. It's this kinda sh*t right here that make me, and probably a lot of other people, suspicious of any new "technology" Harley brings to new models.
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From Cyril Huze Blog ...
http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2018/02/15/...rley-davidson/
The lawyers are smackin' their chops over H-D brake issues. And this was filed in Texas (well Austin, does that count?).
http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2018/02/15/...rley-davidson/
The lawyers are smackin' their chops over H-D brake issues. And this was filed in Texas (well Austin, does that count?).
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Sort of off topic for the thread but still related - I found this vid on the recall and what the parts involved happen to be rather interesting (being an engineer and all). Explains the recall and shows what is inside the little magic box. I was surprised at how simple the system actually is.
Last edited by dceggert; Feb 16, 2018 at 11:49 AM.
