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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 09:26 AM
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If they had ever put a someone famous on the bike it would have been the ice water in hell.
We all could list a personality, but it is a moot point as they junked it.
I think a metric motorcycle is now using that engine I forget who.
Porsche designed it for them, HD went to great trouble to build the frame and did advertise that.
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They never stuck john Travolta out there on it (I hate him anyway) but with the movie "Wild Hogs" it was a no-brainer.
That would have been almost a huge free plug.
nope.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 09:31 AM
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Hey, I took a marketing class in 2nd grade, so here is my take. (My marketing class was being a Milk Monitor, so I learned everything I needed to know to be an expert on H-D forums.)

Actually, I rode the V-rod once. It had forwards. I felt like a closed C-Clamp. They only made one model with mids. Never even saw one. It needed rearsets, not forwards. I ended up buying a second bike of a different brand. I could not figure out who Harley was targeting with the V-rod, not any experienced riders I knew.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by son of the hounds
Hey, I took a marketing class in 2nd grade, so here is my take. (My marketing class was being a Milk Monitor, so I learned everything I needed to know to be an expert on H-D forums.)

Actually, I rode the V-rod once. It had forwards. I felt like a closed C-Clamp. They only made one model with mids. Never even saw one. It needed rearsets, not forwards. I ended up buying a second bike of a different brand. I could not figure out who Harley was targeting with the V-rod, not any experienced riders I knew.
I always thought the V in "V-Rod" was the shape your body made when operating it....

Seriously though, I think that riding position was the deathknell of the V-Rod.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark out West
There's tens of thousands of owners spread over 16 years of production that might happen to disagree with you.

The entire point behind the V-Rod was to NOT appeal to the existing base (namely you), but broaden it and bring in new buyers who would never consider a traditional air-cooled HD (namely me). Without bikes like the V-Rod (or something just as untraditional), that predicament remains IMO.
That was my HD gateway bike from Japanese sport bikes plus getting older. I rode my Honda Superhawk to a sports bar and got talking to some folks who came in on Harleys. They asked why don't you buy a Harley? I responded if they made a water cooled bike with some performance I would consider it. They responded...really? One of the guys had a Vrod. Took a look at it and within a year had one of my own. That 09 muscle in Sunglow Red got more compliments by people at gas stations, restaurants, people walking by than any motorcycle I've owned including a 2013 CVO Road glide. Most came from non HD owners.

There's a a whole show on the engineering and testing that went into this motorcycle, very impressive but they squandered it because it didn't fit the pirate "lifestyle" that's now plaguing selling to the next generation.



I'll add one back to the stable in the future but HD certainly let it die on the vine. If they would have put one in a better handling setup, that's what I would own now.
 

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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 12:23 PM
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Love the VRod Muscle.

Originally Posted by Yamaharley
Reminds me of buell. Those bikes were usually in the back with the used harleys.
And had they kept MV Agusta...
 

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Old Jun 14, 2018 | 12:53 PM
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I owned a V-rod a few years back. I absolutely LOVED the engine, but the bike itself didn't fit my body size & shape (I am 6'2" & 225lbs). The bike felt too small for me to ride comfortably for longer periods. Also, the riding position was not great. It was a very good start, but H-D dropped the ball (for my tastes) by not using that engine in a cruiser body style. I am sure with some tweaking, more advertising, etc., they could have sold a lot more of them!
 
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