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Jeez you guys have it bad trying to buy out in CA! I thankfully haven't ever paid MSRP, my salesman sees me looking at the tag hanging on a new bikes and says "oh don't even worry about that I'll have you out the door for less than the MSRP", and he always has. My buddy bought a new 17 Road King special a week after the 18 models came out and they took 2500 off MSRP, and threw in detachable sissy bar installed, couple shirts, hat, and first service
I bought a 2016 FLHTK just as the 2017s were coming out. From the MSRP, the bike was tagged at $4k less. They were trying to get them out the door. Plus, 5% financing for 5 years; 10% down. I would never pay MSRP for a bike, a car, an RV or a Boat. It's not necessary.
So help me understand how this is supposed to work. You visit the site. You tell the sales person you know what the dealership paid for the bike, and this causes them to immediately fall over and give you a quote for dealer cost +$100?
I would just walk in with the msrp price/build print-out of the bike and color you want from HD's Website (which includes freight) and say "I'm interested in this exact bike, here is HD's full retail price any discount"? Given the current market in motorcycles I wouldn't consider paying a penny over list price and that's with no Doc, prep, wax treatment, market price adjustment, or any other BS mark up. And this would be for a 2019. 2018's are now 1 model year old, three years from now it'll be 4 model years old, so compensation in the form of additional discount off msrp would be necessary.
I was at my local dealer this past weekend looking at their remaining 2018 inventory. They have a ton of 2018s. I was shocked to see that they still had a 10% markup over MSRP on top of all the other costs they pile on that are legit as well as padded. They wanted $22,000 to $23,000 for a stock Sport Glide. Add tax, DMV fees and documentation and you are pushing $25,000! WTH! It's no wonder they have so much stock on hand. The place was a ghost town. Anyone else finding their dealers inflating the price of their remaining 2018 bikes?
Depends on dealer. Bought all three of my bikes at a dealer that posts prices on bikes that are MSRP + Freight + Setup, clearly marked. This applies to CVO's also. I paid MSRP on all of them, Freight and Setup were dropped. Felt I was treated fair. Dealers that do not post prices are a huge read flag to me and any of them that have some kind of bullshit "adder" can forget it. Way too many dealers around the country to deal with ********.
@shodown220 if you don't mind sharing, what dealer and what part of North Carolina? If it's not too far I may ride up there when I'm ready for a new bike.
So help me understand how this is supposed to work. You visit the site. You tell the sales person you know what the dealership paid for the bike, and this causes them to immediately fall over and give you a quote for dealer cost +$100?
Most dealers will sell a new bike in the area of 16% - 18% net profit.
And if your willing to to let them pack the deal with other fees, charges, financing, insurance, warranties, accessories, etc that's your call and stands to substantially increase their profit margins, many times double or more which is total waste of money in my opinion.
Use the info as you see fit, Forewarned is forearmed unless your inclined to be played like the everyday sap that gets screwed to hilt on a day in day out basis in a "Stealership" showroom. I bought my CVO Ultra for 10% under MSRP with no set up or other knick-knack charges (only paid Freight). Knowing how to shop and when to buy saved me over $5k just by knowing how to negotiate a deal in gentlemanly manner and keeping the invoice as clean and on point as possible.
Hoping that by passing a little knowledge around it can help others who care to use it.
@shodown220 if you don't mind sharing, what dealer and what part of North Carolina? If it's not too far I may ride up there when I'm ready for a new bike.
How did I know. Those free hotdogs, parties, and beer doesn't pay for themselves. One poster said it well. It's a great hangout just to test bikes and other things.
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