Backing up and shifting...
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RE: Backing up and shifting...
ORIGINAL: Panhead_1_9_4_8
Slight drag is normal. As you get to a point where your clutch needs adjustment ... you'll notice that it's easier to roll back in gear with the clutch pulled in.
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My bike does not like to back up unless it is in neutrel (engine off). Even if I have the Clutch all the way in it like drags, I shift it into neutrel and it moves with no issues. Seems odd...if I pull the clutch it should roll easily shouldn't it? Hubby mentioned that the rentals in Hawaii rolled better then my bike with the clutch pulled.
I've also noticed sometimes just sitting I go to hit first from neutral and I grind..I have to adjust the clutchhold and soemtimes move the bike a small amount....this only happens rarely.
Lastly I more frequentlyhave issues getting to second from first. I upshift until the shifter stops but it does not make it past neutrel.
These things have happedned since I've ownedthe bike. I've driven many stick shifts but have never had so many problems so regularly.I didn't really know this might be wrong until I took the rentals out in Hawaii. I have 6400 miles on it.
What do you think?
My bike does not like to back up unless it is in neutrel (engine off). Even if I have the Clutch all the way in it like drags, I shift it into neutrel and it moves with no issues. Seems odd...if I pull the clutch it should roll easily shouldn't it? Hubby mentioned that the rentals in Hawaii rolled better then my bike with the clutch pulled.
I've also noticed sometimes just sitting I go to hit first from neutral and I grind..I have to adjust the clutchhold and soemtimes move the bike a small amount....this only happens rarely.
Lastly I more frequentlyhave issues getting to second from first. I upshift until the shifter stops but it does not make it past neutrel.
These things have happedned since I've ownedthe bike. I've driven many stick shifts but have never had so many problems so regularly.I didn't really know this might be wrong until I took the rentals out in Hawaii. I have 6400 miles on it.
What do you think?
Correct. Slight drag is normal when clutch is correctly adjusted but you should still be able to push the bike, just not as easily as when in neutral.
When you shift from first to second are you using the heel shifter or toe shifter? If the problem occurs using the toe shifter, try stepping down hard with the heel shifter or get some steel toe boots and lift up harder with your toes. This should not happen unless you are not shifting all the way through neutral.
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RE: Backing up and shifting...
Something a lot of people don't realize about the later clutches is, they havea damper plate or damper spring assembly that never gives complete plate separation. I don't know if that's what you are talking about or not, but every once in a while I read where someone has torn intotheir clutch looking for a mechanical problem that doesn't exist. You will never have perfect, 100% clutch release because of it, meaning (very little, to no drag at all while pushing you bike in gear with the lever completely pulled). Still, It's been my experience all the late clutches are pretty forgiving when it comes to adjustment in spite of this. The aftermarket clutch kitswithout adamper spring make for a much better shifting motorcycle due to allowing full release/plate separation.
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RE: Backing up and shifting...
Couple of questions, how old is the bike, and how many miles on it. There will always be a little drag on the clutch. As the bike breaks in, things get a little looser. The clutch should be adjusted every time you take the bike in for service. I think you live in Simi, the dealer there has always been good to my son and his girlfriend.
When backing up, always better to be in neutral. The clutch disengages the transmission from the engine. if he bike is in gear and you have the clutch lever pulled in, you are still turning the transmission gears. If you are in neutral, you don't have to fool with the clutch lever and can get a better grip on the bars. Just a thought, my wife also has a hard time backing up her Nightrain. Explained always park the bike on flat ground, if you can't, park nose high. Let gravity help you back up.
Good Luck
When backing up, always better to be in neutral. The clutch disengages the transmission from the engine. if he bike is in gear and you have the clutch lever pulled in, you are still turning the transmission gears. If you are in neutral, you don't have to fool with the clutch lever and can get a better grip on the bars. Just a thought, my wife also has a hard time backing up her Nightrain. Explained always park the bike on flat ground, if you can't, park nose high. Let gravity help you back up.
Good Luck
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RE: Backing up and shifting...
For years now, I have always started my bikes in Neutral & let em warm up a little. Then, shut em off, put em in first gear & re-start em. If a bike has been sitting, say in the garage & gets put into first, after just being started, the CLUNK shock to the tranny as the clutch plates are forced free is more than I can stand to hear.
Just my personal phobia.
Just my personal phobia.
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RE: Backing up and shifting...
I'm with Wally on this, Amsoil makes a HUGE difference in the trans. Unreal, perfect even.
Yes, even with proper adjustment you still have some drag, the tranny is still turning the thrust.
Unless it's in neutral that is.
Yes, even with proper adjustment you still have some drag, the tranny is still turning the thrust.
Unless it's in neutral that is.
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