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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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My bike does not like to back up unless it is in neutrel (engine off). Even if I have the Clutch all the way in it like drags, I shift it into neutrel and it moves with no issues. Seems odd...if I pull the clutch it should roll easily shouldn't it? Hubby mentioned that the rentals in Hawaii rolled better then my bike with the clutch pulled.

I've also noticed sometimes just sitting I go to hit first from neutral and I grind..I have to adjust the clutchhold and soemtimes move the bike a small amount....this only happens rarely.

Lastly I more frequentlyhave issues getting to second from first. I upshift until the shifter stops but it does not make it past neutrel.

These things have happedned since I've ownedthe bike. I've driven many stick shifts but have never had so many problems so regularly.I didn't really know this might be wrong until I took the rentals out in Hawaii. I have 6400 miles on it.

What do you think?

 
Old Jun 29, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Clutch needs adjustment plates may have a little wear on them now if you slip the clutch a lot. Clutch plates are slightly rubbing together along with the friction from the oil and pressure plate, basically the plates are not pushed apart enough.

Do you have a shop manual? If not best 50 to 60 bucks you can spend.
 
Old Jun 29, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Yep havea shop manual...I'm totally useless with a wrench so I'll take a look.

Wonder if I can get this in as a warrenty thing. It seriously has never backed up right. I love to use my warrenties...you pay for them in one way or another, you should get your money's worth.
 
Old Jun 29, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Default RE: Backing up and shifting...

Sounds like your scoot is in need of a clutch cable adjustment.

Not a big deal to do at all.

Follow the cable from the clutch lever back downand you will find the adjustment nuts clipped to the frame(rubber covered). Silde the rubber cover up or down to expose the adjuster. Loosen the lock-nut and tighten the top nut a turn or two. Re-set the locknut and check to see if your problem is solved. Might take a few turns.

Hope this helps.
 
Old Jun 29, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Default RE: Backing up and shifting...

Mine feels the same backing up no matter whether it's in neutral or first gear with the engine running or not, I really haven't noticed any difference. I bet your clutch needs adjusting.
 
Old Jun 29, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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ORIGINAL: Bluerose

My bike does not like to back up unless it is in neutrel (engine off). Even if I have the Clutch all the way in it like drags, I shift it into neutrel and it moves with no issues. Seems odd...if I pull the clutch it should roll easily shouldn't it? Hubby mentioned that the rentals in Hawaii rolled better then my bike with the clutch pulled.

I've also noticed sometimes just sitting I go to hit first from neutral and I grind..I have to adjust the clutchhold and soemtimes move the bike a small amount....this only happens rarely.

Lastly I more frequentlyhave issues getting to second from first. I upshift until the shifter stops but it does not make it past neutrel.

These things have happedned since I've ownedthe bike. I've driven many stick shifts but have never had so many problems so regularly.I didn't really know this might be wrong until I took the rentals out in Hawaii. I have 6400 miles on it.

What do you think?

Slight drag is normal. As you get to a point where your clutch needs adjustment ... you'll notice that it's easier to roll back in gear with the clutch pulled in.
 
Old Jun 29, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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ORIGINAL: Panhead_1_9_4_8

ORIGINAL: Bluerose

My bike does not like to back up unless it is in neutrel (engine off). Even if I have the Clutch all the way in it like drags, I shift it into neutrel and it moves with no issues. Seems odd...if I pull the clutch it should roll easily shouldn't it? Hubby mentioned that the rentals in Hawaii rolled better then my bike with the clutch pulled.

I've also noticed sometimes just sitting I go to hit first from neutral and I grind..I have to adjust the clutchhold and soemtimes move the bike a small amount....this only happens rarely.

Lastly I more frequentlyhave issues getting to second from first. I upshift until the shifter stops but it does not make it past neutrel.

These things have happedned since I've ownedthe bike. I've driven many stick shifts but have never had so many problems so regularly.I didn't really know this might be wrong until I took the rentals out in Hawaii. I have 6400 miles on it.

What do you think?

Slight drag is normal. As you get to a point where your clutch needs adjustment ... you'll notice that it's easier to roll back in gear with the clutch pulled in.
Ahh ha! So the drag while trying to move the bike in gear is good...and less drag is bad.

DOn't ever remember trying to push my car around when not in neutrel so I'm learning
 
Old Jun 29, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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Default RE: Backing up and shifting...

Beverly,
You may have two issues here.
Adjusting the clutch is a real good idea, but, I'd do it the way they state in the manual. It's adjusting the clutch, not adjusting the cable.
Secondly, if I were you, I'd try a different oil in your transmission. I put Amzoil in all three holes and it shifted better, found neutral easier, and according to the engine oil guage on the dash, it runs about 20 degrees cooler.
JMO
 
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Old Jun 29, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Mine drags just a little. Think it is normal though
 
Old Jun 29, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Mine too.

Hard to find neutral even after going to synthetic on the 1K.
 



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