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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 06:48 AM
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I figured out the answer to my question. The question that he needs to respond to is the one where he confirms that the bottom of the engine/oil pan on the M8 bikes protrudes about one eighth of an inch BELOW the frame rails. He is trying his darndest to avoid saying that. But he has to confirm it, otherwise he is going to leave the members here with a false impression.

He says his jack works on his bike. But the truth is he has to make sure he places his jack appropriately in order to miss the part of the engine/oil pan that protrudes below the frame rails. If he does not do that, he will be putting the lifting pressure on the bottom of his engine and not the frame. People need to know this.
I never said the engine hangs below the frame rails, you did. So why would I have to confirm your statement? Confirmation falls on you. Post a pic of your M8's engine's 1/8" protrusion below the frame, so other people know where to not position their jack.

FWIW, the truth is, I position my jack to maintain balance between front & rear. My jack is one of a kind (homemade). Jacks differ, others may, or may not require frame protectors, I don't.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba Zanetti
Good God Man, I need a Xanax after looking at that pic! Where are the straps?
Ralax man, they were there before Photoshop.😎
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 05:14 AM
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Ralax man, they were there before Photoshop.��
Dude my heart started fluttering a little when I saw that pic.
I have a jack I use from time to time and its a real queasy feeling for me when them tires come off the ground.
 

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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bubba Zanetti
Dude my heart started fluttering a little when I saw that pic.
I have a jack I use from time to time and its real queasy feeling for me when them tires come off the ground.
I fabricated that jack about 20 years ago, and have used it hundreds of times on a variety of different models over the years.



It's always a bit unnerving lifting an unfamiliar bike for the first time. Once the balance point has been established, and the load is resting on the safety locks, it is rock solid. If I anticipate the balance point will be altered during a maintenance procedure, safeguards are utilized.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 08:37 AM
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Nice work, its a sturdy jack to be sure
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by barneyboy
I fabricated that jack about 20 years ago, and have used it hundreds of times on a variety of different models over the years.



It's always a bit unnerving lifting an unfamiliar bike for the first time. Once the balance point has been established, and the load is resting on the safety locks, it is rock solid. If I anticipate the balance point will be altered during a maintenance procedure, safeguards are utilized.
Again, my point. What if the balance point of a jack places one of the jack rails under the part of the engine that is protruding BELOW the frame rails? In that case, they will be putting lifting pressure on the engine and not the frame.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 09:03 AM
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Again, my point. What if the balance point of a jack places one of the jack rails under the part of the engine that is protruding BELOW the frame rails? In that case, they will be putting lifting pressure on the engine and not the frame.
It's quite simple. You start a thread about it, ask for input, then refute said input, and draw your own conclusions.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by barneyboy
It's quite simple. You start a thread about it, ask for input, then refute said input, and draw your own conclusions.
That is not what happened here. You need to re-read it. Remember your "white gloves"?
 

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Originally Posted by Bubba Zanetti
Good God Man, I need a Xanax after looking at that pic! Where are the straps?

Haha! My thoughts exactly. I cringe everytime I see that picture re-posted as a scroll down the thread.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by barneyboy
It's quite simple. You start a thread about it, ask for input, then refute said input, and draw your own conclusions.
Bob worries about everything. He brings OCD to a new level. I'm just glad I'm not Bob....
 
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