Reflex Defensive Rider Systems
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From: Midwest
Fred Flintstone was seen on a forum complaining when they added brake pedals and discs with hydraulically actuated pistons..I don't need any of those dang nanny assistant aids to stop my ride.. A real man uses his feet. What's next? Power steering?
Tourer
Joined: Mar 2015
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From: xyzzy
I looked briefly at the H-D feature set description but I didn't see wheelie control explicitly mentioned. I realize the "regular" H-D's are not wheelie prone (an understatement) but I would suspect that the H-D electric bike might wheelie. So, does anyone know about wheelie control being in the feature set? I should be a freebie given that the required wheel speed sensors are already in place for the other features.
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Joined: Feb 2017
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From: KY
I understand some like it, some dont, but to me personally I think if it saves one life its absolutely worth the effort theyve put into it. Personally coming from an accident 3 weeks ago that should have taken my life with serious head trauma and a broken spine, I would have loved to have something like this on the bike. It was a 2019 Electra Glide Standard that I had for a week and half. Wreck wasnt my fault, not entirely sure on the details I just remember the bike being sideways facing a mountain and my gf falling or jumping off, then sparks as I saw her rolling toward me and I went down, after that its all a blur. Point being though if it saves someone or prevents injuries than its well worth the hassle in my opinion.
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From: anacoco, la
so, because other mfg's have been using this tech for years, hd should just not add it at all?
you do realize that most of these rdrs systems are transparent to the rider? unless (when) you make a mistake, they will not kick in. so if you want to 'control' your bike, have at it. then when you mess up, the tech will be there to help you.
you do realize that most of these rdrs systems are transparent to the rider? unless (when) you make a mistake, they will not kick in. so if you want to 'control' your bike, have at it. then when you mess up, the tech will be there to help you.
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2019
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From: MN
Other then maybe the vrod, HD doesn't make a bike with enough power to constitute this tech. ABS is fine and dandy in a panicky braking situation, but if you're relying on that all the time, maybe 2 wheels isn't for you.
so, because other mfg's have been using this tech for years, hd should just not add it at all?
you do realize that most of these rdrs systems are transparent to the rider? unless (when) you make a mistake, they will not kick in. so if you want to 'control' your bike, have at it. then when you mess up, the tech will be there to help you.
you do realize that most of these rdrs systems are transparent to the rider? unless (when) you make a mistake, they will not kick in. so if you want to 'control' your bike, have at it. then when you mess up, the tech will be there to help you.
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From: Upstate New York
I understand some like it, some dont, but to me personally I think if it saves one life its absolutely worth the effort theyve put into it. Personally coming from an accident 3 weeks ago that should have taken my life with serious head trauma and a broken spine, I would have loved to have something like this on the bike. It was a 2019 Electra Glide Standard that I had for a week and half. Wreck wasnt my fault, not entirely sure on the details I just remember the bike being sideways facing a mountain and my gf falling or jumping off, then sparks as I saw her rolling toward me and I went down, after that its all a blur. Point being though if it saves someone or prevents injuries than its well worth the hassle in my opinion.
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Road Warrior
Joined: Aug 2019
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From: Eastern Canada
I personally think all this auto control is great for new or inexperienced riders. I wanted my RKS without ABS ( but impossible ) I prefer to not have any rider assistance (electronically ).It takes away from the ride experience and control factor which makes it exciting for me at least.When I come too hot into a corner on my litre bike, and I'm hard on the front brake , and my back wheel is (ever so slightly) in the air I do not want some bs electronics taking that control. (excitement) away from me. I personally thrive off the adrenaline rush of the challenges that are involved with the controll needed to ride at my personal limit.
Ofcourse I pick the proper times, and place for such behaviour.
Ofcourse I pick the proper times, and place for such behaviour.
Last edited by bburky; Aug 31, 2019 at 01:43 PM.
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Reflex Defensive System
The only system I would want is ABS. Don't want,don't need any of the other high tech nonsense on my motorcycle. I can ride, I know how to start a bike on a hill, I know how to slide one when you lock up the brakes, I don't need something to tell me my tires need air, I check them before ride, I don't need bluetooth nor do I want it, all the pairing of headsets,pairing group of riders to each other is more non-essential crap. If I want to talk to the group, I push my PTT button and my cb allows me to talk for miles, and it was standard on my bike. Don't need nor want to take phone calls when I'm riding, I ride to get away from the phone. I'll call you when I'm stopped via my cell phone.. Nothing that important anyway that can't wait. Don't need GPS either been all over America, Canada and to Alaska and back using nothing but a good old road atlas.Some of the best rides I have been on is when I get lost , that part if the reason I ride, to disappear and relax. Don't need to link to my bike from my phone, I always park it where I can see, it's locked and alarmed, it's not going anywhere.If someone attempts to take it , well God help them. Don't want anyone prying into where I going ,where I've been, how's my riding habits ,etc. All this tech nonsense is just that nonsense, just something to go wrong, add cost to the bottom line of getting a bike, and cost to fix all that crap.If I wanted all the crap on.my bike,I would just drive a my car. Oh by the way, don't wait it there either..
Last edited by TheMurf; Aug 31, 2019 at 02:02 PM.
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From: St. Charles, MO
I don't personally feel that I need all the added tech, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have its place - even on a "lowly" Harley.
