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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 09:26 PM
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With all of the discussion around the Livewire, I think we're seeing a lot of people that are very skeptical of full electric bikes. Whether is be the range of the batteries, initial buy-in cost, unknown repair costs, reliability, etc, it seems most people have some reservations.

I'm wondering why the motorcycle world hasn't followed the automotive world and explored hybrid bikes? Perhaps they don't serve a real purpose (ie, cars did it for better MPG), but in the supercar world we're seeing the extreme benefits of hybrid power. Those cars, while very complicated, make more power, get better MPG than their gas-only counterparts, and have the benefit of keeping the things we love about fast cars (gas engine noises and characteristics), while making everything else better.


I think people would be open to a 107ci engine with a small, hidden electric motor that spins up to provide an extra 25-30 ft lbs of torque below 2k RPM, charges itself in an unobtrusive way like brake heat (like F1 cars) or the alternator, or exhaust gases, whatever/however they do that stuff, and still allows us to hear/feel our beloved gas engines.


Anyway, this is just me rambling before going into work, what say thee?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 10:30 PM
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I've wondered that as well. It makes sense and it's likely that some manufacturers considered it. Guess the only benefit would be the gas engine characteristics and maybe that's just not enough. I think that people, or most of them, who reject the idea of e-bikes wouldn't have interest in a hybrid either.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan...
How would you feel about hybrid motorcycles?
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 11:04 PM
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Would not be sanguine about spending the kinda cheddar one would cost for a toy.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2019 | 11:06 PM
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The new models are already way too complicated for my taste. This would only make it worse.

Hard no.
 
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I Would love it. Had 7 hybrid cars in the last 10 years.
 

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Present line of bikes are already fat as f**k and getting heavier every year so yeah lets add a couple hundred extra pounds of crap, add oh say 20-25% to the overall size to accommodate all that complicated tech, bump the price tag 10K to cover it all, yeah that's the ticket it'll be a sure thing.
 
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Originally Posted by JekyllnHyde
I've wondered that as well. It makes sense and it's likely that some manufacturers considered it. Guess the only benefit would be the gas engine characteristics and maybe that's just not enough. I think that people, or most of them, who reject the idea of e-bikes wouldn't have interest in a hybrid either.
I suspect you may be correct on the benefits not being enough to justify the cost vs full electric, and similarly people are against any changes at all to their gas engine powerplants (except, of course, people who bitch about bikes still being air cooled, or not advanced enough, or too advanced and forgetting their roots, etc).

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Present line of bikes are already fat as f**k and getting heavier every year so yeah lets add a couple hundred extra pounds of crap, add oh say 20-25% to the overall size to accommodate all that complicated tech, bump the price tag 10K to cover it all, yeah that's the ticket it'll be a sure thing.
My thinking in this completely hypothetical situation would be something along the lines of a single, small electric motor mounted behind the V-twin, which has the sole purpose of boosting power. I can't fathom such a thing adding hundreds of pounds, but the price would obviously be a big factor.

The R&D would obviously be substantial, but it also seems to me like it would be a good bridge between the current motorcycling world, and the future full electric bikes that most seem to harbor resentment towards.
 
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Just make a diesel bike, it'd be easier.
 
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I want simplicity of design w minimal maintanance

... this comes to mind. Dream bike!!
 
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