Does HD intentionally NERF their engines?
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 386
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From: Beaver Falls PA
Never understood why anyone would take a stock Harley and replace with Harley's so-called street performance parts with really cool names like Screamin Eagle or Street Canons . Just the same Harley EPA overpriced parts that do nothing more as far as performance goes over stock parts . Talking to a guy the other day in a parking lot he was standing beside his new Harley and was bragging about his Street Canons and Harley Race tuner that he paid to much for and then paid the Dealer to flash the ECM . Flash for what ? Just another EPA compliant Harley part / tune. I did not say anything to him, I just thought to myself Harley loves uninformed guys like you . Maybe he should be reading the posts on this forum and then he would know what to buy and do to get a true Stage 1 upgrade .
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 6,185
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From: W. Texas
As a rule I have done little to the vehicles but have most always chanced things on the bike's
Best I can tell this forum itself has contributed a lot to people upgrading their bike's
Many threads have started someone down the modification road that sometimes ends up in H%$#
I too have stood beside one of my bike's thinking. Why did I start this ???
WP
Best I can tell this forum itself has contributed a lot to people upgrading their bike's
Many threads have started someone down the modification road that sometimes ends up in H%$#
I too have stood beside one of my bike's thinking. Why did I start this ???
WP
Grand HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,599
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From: Lansing mi
It's all about post sales dealer installed mods profit + profit for the parts.
I made the same comments in another thread and you're right it has nothing to do with the EPA since Screaming Eagle upgrades are 50 state legal and EPA compliant. Harley could easily use a better cam, air cleaner, exhaust and tune right from the factory but doing so will eat into the post sale earning potential for the dealers and the MoCo.
I don't agree that some people don't want more power. The correct statement is that some people don't want to pay extra for more power after the sale... If our bikes came stock with equal the power of a stage 2 no one would complain about them having too much power and not buy one.
I made the same comments in another thread and you're right it has nothing to do with the EPA since Screaming Eagle upgrades are 50 state legal and EPA compliant. Harley could easily use a better cam, air cleaner, exhaust and tune right from the factory but doing so will eat into the post sale earning potential for the dealers and the MoCo.
I don't agree that some people don't want more power. The correct statement is that some people don't want to pay extra for more power after the sale... If our bikes came stock with equal the power of a stage 2 no one would complain about them having too much power and not buy one.
Grand HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,599
Likes: 421
From: Lansing mi
I have a friend with the 107 in a Softail Sport Glide. I got to put a lot of miles on it
I think its faster with more Torque then my stage 1 14 Road King. I honestly dont think I would bother with more then Mufflers.
I think its faster with more Torque then my stage 1 14 Road King. I honestly dont think I would bother with more then Mufflers.
Road Master
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,157
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From: TX
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