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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 11:24 PM
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Some Livewires recalled due to software glitch. This affects about half of the 45 Livewires sold to date [Nevermind, I just made up that number, its BS - but the recall is true!]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...ic-motorcycles
 
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 12:26 AM
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From that article:

"It is estimated that some 1,012 bikes have been affected by the recall."


They also said that only some of the bikes manufactured have the issue, and listed the date range between 9/19 and 3/20.

Sounds like it's possible the LiveWire is selling a hell of a lot better than many people thought it would. If those numbers are accurate, the LiveWire division has probably gotten gross sales dollars of at least $30 million, on par with Zero's entire 9-bike lineup (listed as $34 million on ZoomInfo). And Zero's been around for 14 years, this is LiveWire's first year.


Not huge revenues for a Harley, of course, but seems like respectable numbers for an electric bike.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 01:04 AM
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The update done by my dealer took slightly under 90 seconds from plugging in the USB until up and running again. Hugely easier than, say, the days of changing carb jets and adjusting ignition points :-)
 

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Originally Posted by FatBob2018
From that article:



They also said that only some of the bikes manufactured have the issue, and listed the date range between 9/19 and 3/20.

Sounds like it's possible the LiveWire is selling a hell of a lot better than many people thought it would. If those numbers are accurate, the LiveWire division has probably gotten gross sales dollars of at least $30 million, on par with Zero's entire 9-bike lineup (listed as $34 million on ZoomInfo). And Zero's been around for 14 years, this is LiveWire's first year.

Not huge revenues for a Harley, of course, but seems like respectable numbers for an electric bike.
so in 7 years they will be halfway to the break even point when they will have to drop the product from the line because of poor sales
 
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 06:20 AM
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......and to think I almost bought one!
 
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Originally Posted by Oldun
The update done by my dealer took slightly under 90 seconds from plugging in the USB until up and running again. Hugely easier than, say, the days of changing carb jets and adjusting ignition points :-)
Totally relevant because HD hasn’t used carb jets in over 15 years and points in over 40 years
 
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 06:43 AM
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You know I got in my car yesterday and it told me it needed to do an update. I started the process and it has to be in an off state. I drove to my first sales call, started the update and when I came out the process was finished and I was off and rolling again. For the money on a live wire why doesn’t it simply download and go?

Yeah I know more complicated than that!
 
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I always wait for them to get the bugs out when something new comes out.
 
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....yeah, but of those 1012 LiveWires being recalled, how many of those may be still sitting on dealer floors? Are those actual bikes sold & in use?
 
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 09:51 AM
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....yeah, but of those 1012 LiveWires being recalled, how many of those may be still sitting on dealer floors? Are those actual bikes sold & in use?
doubtful...
 
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