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I talked to Fuel Moto about a ceramic coated head pipe versus just their stainless steel before I decatted my stock head-pipe. Getting rid of the cat (on an FL since its in the head pipe) is the big game changer in managing heat. The ceramic coating only makes a fairly small incremental difference relatively speaking, according to them. For whatever thats worth
Is your wife a new rider?
She isn’t lugging the motor is she?
She shouldn’t be getting blisters
on a 200 mile ride even with the cat.
200 miles isn’t much, The wife and i
Ride that on a Saturday and again on Sunday with stops for lunch and pee breaks. Something isn’t adding up.
Consider some type of cooling fan. I have a set of Wards fans and the heat they route away from the engine is substantial. Those are not available any longer, Love Jugs makes a similar product. I believe the Harley mid frame fan would control rear head pipe even better. She will still feel the heat, especially on the side opposite the fans, but at least it is moving away from her.
I cant imagine enough heat to cause a blister unless she is actually touching the pipe. I have to ask, what kind of pants is she wearing. Thick jeans or thin slacks. I ride in a thin tactical style pant in summer heat. My legs get warm but never close to uncomfortable. I am still running cats and Screaming Eagle slip ons.
Please don't do this. It's not 50 years ago, and there's a ton more to do than slap a larger jet into a carb. Simply adding more fuel is not the solution to heat.
Tune the bike with a TTS or a PV, get your VEs correct, and get your timing optimized. No reason whatsoever to richen the entire map up.
The bike in my signature pic makes silly power, and is running in closed-loop throughout most of the map. It'll idle in the heat without scorching me for hours.
"Tune the bike with a TTS or a PV, get your VEs correct" ... and that's exactly what I meant ... stoichiometric mixture has to on the money
Last edited by Uncle Larry; Dec 4, 2021 at 11:21 AM.
Also try the cooling wings from DK Customs, they direct a ton of air onto the motor that would otherwise go over the tank. fwiw I have the cooling wings, 1" tank lift, right side deflector, open screen inserts on the lowers, fan forced oil cooler, no cat, and a decent tune, the bike is significantly cooler than it was. All done for longevity, but comfort was a nice plus.
I had a set of Love Jugs on a previous bike, a really HOT Fatboy S, that worked great. They kept the engine way cooler, but I don't know that they would keep a passenger cooler.
Is your wife a new rider?k
She isnt lugging the motor is she?
She shouldnt be getting blisters
on a 200 mile ride even with the cat.
200 miles isnt much, The wife and i
Ride that on a Saturday and again on Sunday with stops for lunch and pee breaks. Something isnt adding up.
She isnt new to riding at all and at highway speeds, I doubt that she is lugging it. When Im on my bike, I obviously cant tell whether the engine is being lugged or not. I have ridden it some about an hour at a time and it does get hot. When my 06 FLSTC was new, I t ran hot as hell, but nothing like this. Of course a TC 103 generally runs hotter out of the box than a TC 88. Once I installed a PC III and had it dynoed it ran much cooler. Im about to order a tank lift kit from DK Customs and also going to remove the left side mid frame deflector. Im also calling some shops with a dyno to see if I can get the AFR right and hopefully it will run cooler.
I went he exhaust out and sat on it earlier today and from where she got blistered, it looks like the heat is coming from the rear cylinder. I still plan on changing the exhaust to get rid of the cats.
I have a power vision on the bike with canned maps from Fuel Moto.
You need to remeber a tank lift and removing deflectors will do NOTHING for the heat at low speeds. As a matter of fact it let's more heat at the rider to feel. An engine is a heat pump so you have to change the amount its making to feel or see any changes. Getting exhaust further away or blocking that heat will get you the gains your looking for and all the other stuff isn't going to do much of anything for rider felt heat.
You need to remeber a tank lift and removing deflectors will do NOTHING for the heat at low speeds. As a matter of fact it let's more heat at the rider to feel. An engine is a heat pump so you have to change the amount its making to feel or see any changes. Getting exhaust further away or blocking that heat will get you the gains your looking for and all the other stuff isn't going to do much of anything for rider felt heat.
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