HD did not get the touring line right starting with 23.5 IMO
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HD did not get the touring line right starting with 23.5 IMO
Dealers were repaintiong the 23.5 cvos to try and sell them. As a cvo owner this is sad. You can still buy one brand new. lol
Really, silver with pinstripes cvo. I know some just wanted the latest body style to pay up, but no cvo quality paint.
Click on the 24+ touring thread
Most of the threads are problems, or talk about adding lowers/tour-pak/full fender for actual touring.
Yes, the king of baggers has brought this on. somewhat
Technology is great, but give us actual touring bikes that we do not have to buy/add extras things to make it a touing bike.
What would be better is adaptive cruise control. Front and rear radar for blind spot. Give us actual tech for riding/touring this country.
The 25 street glide ultra has the out dated tour-pak without rear speakers. Are these the one year model like the 08?
I can not understand why HD did not release both touring bikes dressed out for touring. Ultras and roadglides
People have different opnions on what a touring bike is. My thoughts is it needs to have saddlebags and a tour-pak, or tour-bag
I have done 2 coast to coast rides and you have to have the capacity to carry things.
I want a new bike, and want to stay with harley, but built the touring bike geared for touring.
We want comfort and range
Really, silver with pinstripes cvo. I know some just wanted the latest body style to pay up, but no cvo quality paint.
Click on the 24+ touring thread
Most of the threads are problems, or talk about adding lowers/tour-pak/full fender for actual touring.
Yes, the king of baggers has brought this on. somewhat
Technology is great, but give us actual touring bikes that we do not have to buy/add extras things to make it a touing bike.
What would be better is adaptive cruise control. Front and rear radar for blind spot. Give us actual tech for riding/touring this country.
The 25 street glide ultra has the out dated tour-pak without rear speakers. Are these the one year model like the 08?
I can not understand why HD did not release both touring bikes dressed out for touring. Ultras and roadglides
People have different opnions on what a touring bike is. My thoughts is it needs to have saddlebags and a tour-pak, or tour-bag
I have done 2 coast to coast rides and you have to have the capacity to carry things.
I want a new bike, and want to stay with harley, but built the touring bike geared for touring.
We want comfort and range
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You make some good points, but I have a couple counter points.
The CVO paint (and the CVO extras) doesn't do anything for me in terms of touring. They're pretty of course, but any bike that gets ridden doesn't stay pretty after a couple of years.
I don't want any more technology than what I have on my 19 SGS. All that tech doesn't make touring any more satisfying and there seems to be a lot of problems with the new touring bikes. In fact, reading some of the posts here make it look like problems waiting to happen on any trip. Don't need problems on the road for sure.
The CVO paint (and the CVO extras) doesn't do anything for me in terms of touring. They're pretty of course, but any bike that gets ridden doesn't stay pretty after a couple of years.
I don't want any more technology than what I have on my 19 SGS. All that tech doesn't make touring any more satisfying and there seems to be a lot of problems with the new touring bikes. In fact, reading some of the posts here make it look like problems waiting to happen on any trip. Don't need problems on the road for sure.
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I'm not a fan of build buying a Street Glide to make a half assed Ultra Limited either.
I have a truck with adaptive cruise and don't want it on a bike. I haven't used it since it made a miscalculation and slammed on the brakes.
I have a truck with adaptive cruise and don't want it on a bike. I haven't used it since it made a miscalculation and slammed on the brakes.
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Yea, not a fan of adaptive cruise on wife’s 2024 car or my 2024 Gladiator. Sure as heck wouldn’t use it on the bike, although I use cruise all the time.
That said, of all that HD did wrong on the new Glides, put a real front fender on those things. Not for aesthetics, but to stay dry in the rain or wet roads.
Fer cryin out loud.
That said, of all that HD did wrong on the new Glides, put a real front fender on those things. Not for aesthetics, but to stay dry in the rain or wet roads.
Fer cryin out loud.
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Adaptive cruise could have its moments. For the times interstate traffic is light and you try to set cruise at car speed in front of you, only to gain and have to hit the brakes to reset cruise 1 mph slower.
Agreed those times are not a lot, but its not meant to be self driving either. Just less input on long rides.
Its like HD makes one type of touring bike now. KOB bikes. The $110k+ CVORR is a cool bike, but to me its money wasted. I do not see any tech that will trickle down to the touring lines.
If they would make the hot rod bagger with sport fenders, short pipes, pegs, T-bars, and bags only, then make the limited with full fenders, taller windshield, full length pipes, heel shift, tour-pak, floorboards front/rear etc.
When I am taking trips and pass others touring most times they have tour-paks.This has had to hurt sales. I rarely see the 24/25 touring bikes. My last trip I seen 2 at the hotel next to where I was staying. I remember the Rushmore bikes were plentiful by their second year out.
Agreed those times are not a lot, but its not meant to be self driving either. Just less input on long rides.
Its like HD makes one type of touring bike now. KOB bikes. The $110k+ CVORR is a cool bike, but to me its money wasted. I do not see any tech that will trickle down to the touring lines.
If they would make the hot rod bagger with sport fenders, short pipes, pegs, T-bars, and bags only, then make the limited with full fenders, taller windshield, full length pipes, heel shift, tour-pak, floorboards front/rear etc.
When I am taking trips and pass others touring most times they have tour-paks.This has had to hurt sales. I rarely see the 24/25 touring bikes. My last trip I seen 2 at the hotel next to where I was staying. I remember the Rushmore bikes were plentiful by their second year out.
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100% agree. Harley needs a fully optioned touring bike out of the factory for those of us who dont want to go through the hassle of adding the tour pack, lowers, heated seat and grips, foot pegs, riders backrest, reliable electronics, right height windshield and handlebars, electronic locking bags etc. My 2022 cvo rgl came with all those stock and I still ended up upgrading the stereo and motor.
Dealers were repaintiong the 23.5 cvos to try and sell them. As a cvo owner this is sad. You can still buy one brand new. lol
Really, silver with pinstripes cvo. I know some just wanted the latest body style to pay up, but no cvo quality paint.
Click on the 24+ touring thread
Most of the threads are problems, or talk about adding lowers/tour-pak/full fender for actual touring.
Yes, the king of baggers has brought this on. somewhat
Technology is great, but give us actual touring bikes that we do not have to buy/add extras things to make it a touing bike.
What would be better is adaptive cruise control. Front and rear radar for blind spot. Give us actual tech for riding/touring this country.
The 25 street glide ultra has the out dated tour-pak without rear speakers. Are these the one year model like the 08?
I can not understand why HD did not release both touring bikes dressed out for touring. Ultras and roadglides
People have different opnions on what a touring bike is. My thoughts is it needs to have saddlebags and a tour-pak, or tour-bag
I have done 2 coast to coast rides and you have to have the capacity to carry things.
I want a new bike, and want to stay with harley, but built the touring bike geared for touring.
We want comfort and range
Really, silver with pinstripes cvo. I know some just wanted the latest body style to pay up, but no cvo quality paint.
Click on the 24+ touring thread
Most of the threads are problems, or talk about adding lowers/tour-pak/full fender for actual touring.
Yes, the king of baggers has brought this on. somewhat
Technology is great, but give us actual touring bikes that we do not have to buy/add extras things to make it a touing bike.
What would be better is adaptive cruise control. Front and rear radar for blind spot. Give us actual tech for riding/touring this country.
The 25 street glide ultra has the out dated tour-pak without rear speakers. Are these the one year model like the 08?
I can not understand why HD did not release both touring bikes dressed out for touring. Ultras and roadglides
People have different opnions on what a touring bike is. My thoughts is it needs to have saddlebags and a tour-pak, or tour-bag
I have done 2 coast to coast rides and you have to have the capacity to carry things.
I want a new bike, and want to stay with harley, but built the touring bike geared for touring.
We want comfort and range
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I defiantly would not want adaptive cruise on a bike.
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I agree and this is the reason I just bought a very low mileage 2022 Road Glide Limited. I wanted a full touring bike with all the bells and whistles installed and ready to go. Piecing it together is what I did with my 2005 and I no longer interested in that process for my Touring bike. Just want to customize a few things for rider comfort and be on my way.
What sucks, it is so easy for them to just make the bikes the way we want them. Why are the trikes still using the older fairing? Why can I buy most of the parts to make a Limited but they will not just offer it as another model?
The beauty of HD is all the Touring bikes, including the trikes, are based on the same platform. They can make any version they want for pennies. But they want to play this game of offering what they think we should want instead of what we want. And they could have more models for limited investment, just not a good business model.
What sucks, it is so easy for them to just make the bikes the way we want them. Why are the trikes still using the older fairing? Why can I buy most of the parts to make a Limited but they will not just offer it as another model?
The beauty of HD is all the Touring bikes, including the trikes, are based on the same platform. They can make any version they want for pennies. But they want to play this game of offering what they think we should want instead of what we want. And they could have more models for limited investment, just not a good business model.
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Another thing to consider is when we ADD all these touring things like tour-paks, fairing lowers with new engine guard, taller windshield, etc
Come trade in time the dealer will really be smiling because it adds nothing to book value.
Sure you can try and sell private, or take off addons, but colors may not match the new bike, and try and sell add on parts local.
Come trade in time the dealer will really be smiling because it adds nothing to book value.
Sure you can try and sell private, or take off addons, but colors may not match the new bike, and try and sell add on parts local.
