overdoing it
Road Warrior
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Williamsport, Pa
RE: overdoing it
I used to be able to get away with my skull bucket but now i had to get a DOT helmet cause their enforcing it hard. So i went out and got a huge white one. I dont really mind and I am probally alot younger than most but have always been around riding harleys and dirt bikes. I went to the class on base and since then i understand why all the rules. I had a officer telling me what a hard time i was going to have with my apes while he sat on his duece laughing with too others in regualr clothes. funny thing was after watching him and some of the others ride I now understand why they have all the rules. Theirs to many people not just in the military but around this area that shouldnt even be aloud to sit on a bike. i personally think before someone can ride on pavement they should be able to ride in the mud and dirt.
Tourer
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: MD
RE: overdoing it
Common sense isn't so common these days
ORIGINAL: Maj Franklin
I'm all about safe riding, but the Army is getting a little crazy. We now not only have to wear a reflective vest while on a military installation, but are forced to carry our cycle safety card whenever we enter and exit a military facility......I'm just venting a little here, but the folks that always show up on the "preliminary loss reports" are generally young soldiers on crotch rockets that have not even taken a safety course.
Common sense should prevail....any thoughts on this?
I'm all about safe riding, but the Army is getting a little crazy. We now not only have to wear a reflective vest while on a military installation, but are forced to carry our cycle safety card whenever we enter and exit a military facility......I'm just venting a little here, but the folks that always show up on the "preliminary loss reports" are generally young soldiers on crotch rockets that have not even taken a safety course.
Common sense should prevail....any thoughts on this?
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Michigan
RE: overdoing it
Went thru all this when I was in back in the 80's. Price you pay for being able to play. Only time when I got in trouble riding on the bike on base was when I went thru the front gate of Camp Pendleton with a short helmet and an earing in my ear. Before you start it was a long leave and a really hot girl.
That was a nice way to meet the squadron SgtMaj trying to explain that on my first day. He never did forget my name.
That was a nice way to meet the squadron SgtMaj trying to explain that on my first day. He never did forget my name.
Cruiser
Joined: Dec 2006
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RE: overdoing it
ORIGINAL: smitty901
If you get back up around McCoy give me a yell live 139 miles from it we will ride I have been to Atterbury, IN a few times if the army sends you up without the bike no worry I have a spare
If you get back up around McCoy give me a yell live 139 miles from it we will ride I have been to Atterbury, IN a few times if the army sends you up without the bike no worry I have a spare
ORIGINAL: YEFFRO12
smitty901 you sound like a great Top!(leading from the front) We had a guy get medical'd out from launching his RoadKing while drunk after leaving the NCO club. He damn near died, and will never be the same. This was just prior to our deployment to Afghanistan in '04. Then when we got from back from OEF a guy did the same thing on his Ultra. He's barely 40 and lives in a Nursing home now. We're going to see him next month after drill. I was at Ft. McCoy in 2006 for OIF Mob and heard all about that incident there too.
At Atterbury, IN were good if we have boots, helmet, and a PT belt around the sissy bar will work. I'll take the extra visibility...
smitty901 you sound like a great Top!(leading from the front) We had a guy get medical'd out from launching his RoadKing while drunk after leaving the NCO club. He damn near died, and will never be the same. This was just prior to our deployment to Afghanistan in '04. Then when we got from back from OEF a guy did the same thing on his Ultra. He's barely 40 and lives in a Nursing home now. We're going to see him next month after drill. I was at Ft. McCoy in 2006 for OIF Mob and heard all about that incident there too.
At Atterbury, IN were good if we have boots, helmet, and a PT belt around the sissy bar will work. I'll take the extra visibility...
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2006
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RE: overdoing it
And to add to the misery , at the Army base that Ilive by they now require that you take the MSF course every 5 years. I am still waiting on a class, cant get my base decal until then.I traded my bike and went in to get a decal with my 25 year old MSF card and they said nope,need to do it again.
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Joined: Mar 2008
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RE: overdoing it
Its a typical knee jerk reaction just like anything the Army does. We are going to fix it with power point training! Some Major or Lt Col in some G shop got an OER bullet for devolping these standards, unfortunately we cant do anything about them. Its gotten so bad, at least here at Lewis, that any motorcycle incident is CCIR to the first 0-6 in the chain of command. Talk about micro-management.
I dont ride my bike on post anymore, I dont even register it on post so I dont have to have get the monthly inspection on it. The Army doesnt want you to have a bike, just as they discourage you owning firearms. Its unfortunate, the people who make these crazy garrison policies probably think they are doing great and wonderful things. But over regulation and micro-management just breeds resentment and makes for poor leaders. They are not allowed to exercise judgements and form their own opinions.
The only saving grace is the State of Washington, the great bastion of Socialism that it is, requires almos the same thing as the Army does to ride. I need to PCS back to Colorado.
Its like wearing the beret, its dumb, but no one is going to fix it. So alot of people just disregard it. "Its worth getting your butt chewed if the sun and rain are not in my eyes" is become more and more popular these days. Cant say I totally disagree.
I dont ride my bike on post anymore, I dont even register it on post so I dont have to have get the monthly inspection on it. The Army doesnt want you to have a bike, just as they discourage you owning firearms. Its unfortunate, the people who make these crazy garrison policies probably think they are doing great and wonderful things. But over regulation and micro-management just breeds resentment and makes for poor leaders. They are not allowed to exercise judgements and form their own opinions.
The only saving grace is the State of Washington, the great bastion of Socialism that it is, requires almos the same thing as the Army does to ride. I need to PCS back to Colorado.
Its like wearing the beret, its dumb, but no one is going to fix it. So alot of people just disregard it. "Its worth getting your butt chewed if the sun and rain are not in my eyes" is become more and more popular these days. Cant say I totally disagree.
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 403
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From: Antioch, CA
RE: overdoing it
ORIGINAL: MCSarge
Went thru all this when I was in back in the 80's. Price you pay for being able to play. Only time when I got in trouble riding on the bike on base was when I went thru the front gate of Camp Pendleton with a short helmet and an earing in my ear. Before you start it was a long leave and a really hot girl. That was a nice way to meet the squadron SgtMaj trying to explain that on my first day. He never did forget my name.
Went thru all this when I was in back in the 80's. Price you pay for being able to play. Only time when I got in trouble riding on the bike on base was when I went thru the front gate of Camp Pendleton with a short helmet and an earing in my ear. Before you start it was a long leave and a really hot girl.
That was a nice way to meet the squadron SgtMaj trying to explain that on my first day. He never did forget my name.
Any chance that was MgySgt Russell?