No Waves
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RE: No Waves
Down here everybody waves. Trucks, cars, bikes, mopeds....everybody. Mainly in the country though. It's just a friendly thing we do. Even when there are bikes everywhere during a rally, people wave. Hell, Texas has signs that say Drive Friendly on the highways. My grandpa said when he got back from WWII and bought his first bike, the pilots on bikes would give you a thumbs up like they did before they took off in their planes on a mission. It was a good luck thing and didn't have anything to do with keeping the MOCO afloat.
I think that bikers that don't wave have a burr up their *** and need to get over themselves. But, I guess there is always some pantywaist that doesn't want to play well with others...**** on em' I say.
I think that bikers that don't wave have a burr up their *** and need to get over themselves. But, I guess there is always some pantywaist that doesn't want to play well with others...**** on em' I say.
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I ride a Yamaha FJR now but am a former Harley rider. I to was in Daytona (7th trip...seemed to be much less people). There are so many bikes in Daytona that it is just impossible to wave to everyone. Being on a Sport touring bike I have found that most (but not all) Halrey riders will not return the wave. Hate to say it but a lot of them are just ********!!! That said I wave to everyone....if I don;t wave its bacause I was looking somewhere else and just didn't see you.
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ORIGINAL: scootertramp
I don't know? Seen their stocks lately. Before the evo & public holding days it was us raggedy *** bikers keeping em afloat! AMF nearly killed em! You know the greasy, hard working, wear our levis for weeks, refused service because of who we hung with, looked down upon, bikers. Not todays Harley sportin jeans, boots, t-shirts, bandanas, face masks, gloves, jackets, do rags, chaps, trucks, jap cars with HD stickers. stylin ridin people! I'm not bitter, mind you, but some us remember the 60's & 70's. It was a different crew & culture. Back then shops gave you t-shirts for doing business with them. Now you pay $25.00 for the priviledge of giving them free advertising. So yaa you & corporate America (read Ford) are still keeping her alive but back then you all weren't on board. There was a much smaller client base and the company was damn near under. That's what I mean by keeping HD afloat! Only GI's, vets, 1%'ers and basically hard core bikers rode back then. Not lawyers and their wives who do it because it's the current rage. Not cops & prison guards playing renegade flyin some phony *** club colors. To each his own, but I'll not be damned for remembering what I consider the good old days! I don't even set foot in a dealership unless it's a necessity.
I don't know? Seen their stocks lately. Before the evo & public holding days it was us raggedy *** bikers keeping em afloat! AMF nearly killed em! You know the greasy, hard working, wear our levis for weeks, refused service because of who we hung with, looked down upon, bikers. Not todays Harley sportin jeans, boots, t-shirts, bandanas, face masks, gloves, jackets, do rags, chaps, trucks, jap cars with HD stickers. stylin ridin people! I'm not bitter, mind you, but some us remember the 60's & 70's. It was a different crew & culture. Back then shops gave you t-shirts for doing business with them. Now you pay $25.00 for the priviledge of giving them free advertising. So yaa you & corporate America (read Ford) are still keeping her alive but back then you all weren't on board. There was a much smaller client base and the company was damn near under. That's what I mean by keeping HD afloat! Only GI's, vets, 1%'ers and basically hard core bikers rode back then. Not lawyers and their wives who do it because it's the current rage. Not cops & prison guards playing renegade flyin some phony *** club colors. To each his own, but I'll not be damned for remembering what I consider the good old days! I don't even set foot in a dealership unless it's a necessity.
So minus the Gi's and(most of) the vets it was criminals and thugs that kept HD afloat. Now THAT'S something to be proud of.
And since many riders now were too young(or even not born yet) to "be on board" that still makes them posers in your view. Interesting..
So those of us that are cops & prison guards(I'm the latter. If you don't know what latter means look it up) we must be posers. Not hard core "bikers"(read criminals) like you.
I'll bet you dress like a gay pirate.
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From: Republic of Texas
RE: No Waves
If you don't want to wave don't. If you do want to wave then wave. I don't care. I can' believe that anyone would think that If they wave or don't wave it would matter to me. I will wave when I see another motorcycle rider. I wave cause I can and I want to.
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Man o man! I have to say, I did not know that there was such a controversy on waving. I am a newbie to the bike rider family. I haven't even been riding for 6 months yet. Love my new 08 sportster. My husband just started building custom choppers not to long ago. And, when he finished the first one and started riding it, he would come home and tell me how all of the other riders he passed, waved at him. He made sure to explain it was not a hold the hand up and wave back and forth wave, but a simple release of the hand and usually two fingers down, and occasionally it was accompanied by a *** (probably due to his chopper). Not being a rider yet, I never noticed it before. The first day I rode my bike (dropped it at the first stop sign I came too - idiot) my hubby was on his chopper in front and I saw it - "the wave". I was to terrified to take my hand off the bars and attempt it that first day. But, I have to say, it actually made me feel proud when I saw others wave at me. There I was a 40 yr old paralegal riding my first Harley and it felt as if the entire bike community was welcoming me to the club. It took me about three rides before I attempted my first release and when I did - it felt great! I know all this may sound silly and stupid tomost or all of you, but I do feel a sense of pride to now own and ride my own bike and yes, it is a very special "club" to be a part of. To all of you out there, when I pass you on the street, I'm gonna give you a wave - two fingers down and I might even add a nod for good measure. And, I'm gonna be smiling to myself when I do it.
Stay safe!
Stay safe!
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RE: No Waves
This forum is interesting. Lots of information here. Lots of bs also. I am surprised at the dues attitude. I am old enough to have had to sign up for the draft when Vietnam was a current event. I have worked on pan heads. I remember when you could buy one slightly used. I wave because I wish to wave. I ride because I need to ride. Its easy to recognize other kindred souls that need to ride. I have paid dues and sometimes hope others don't have to pay the same dues. I usually ignore the fashion cops, the need to pay your dues collectors and theI am areal biker snobs. They are dumbasses. I stop when bikers are broke down to offer what help I can. I talk to the people that ask and show interest in my bikes or me as a rider. So to stress my point wave if you wish to wave--I will wave back or I will wave first. Wear what you wish when you ride--hopefully it protects you. Wear your helmet if you wish---if you don't want to thats okay too. Enjoy the ride---they never last long enough.
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From: The Desert SouthWest
RE: No Waves
The survival of the culture and the sport requires that more and more people get in on the game - it would die out otherwise. This is a wonderful and special brotherhood and is made up of all kinds. Let's stick together and remember we have WAY more in common than we don't so quit being a grump and be glad this amazing and wonderful sport is alive and well.With gas approaching $5 a gallon some day or even $10 if the Elitists have their way, a m/c will be worth its weight in gold at some point in time.
I nearly always wave when able, always stop and check on a fellow rider who is on the side of the road (even if I'm in my truck), etc. That's the way it should be and what makesthis cultureso great. Cars? Yeah right, don't hold your breath for motorists to give you the time of day whether you're on 2 or 4 wheels - the most you can hope for is the bastards won't run you over while you sit there...
I nearly always wave when able, always stop and check on a fellow rider who is on the side of the road (even if I'm in my truck), etc. That's the way it should be and what makesthis cultureso great. Cars? Yeah right, don't hold your breath for motorists to give you the time of day whether you're on 2 or 4 wheels - the most you can hope for is the bastards won't run you over while you sit there...