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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 01:32 AM
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There is no convincing anyone who has decided they will never wear a full face helmet. But for those that want to give a FUll Face Helmet a try. Spen the money on a good one and spend the time trying on all of them. They are made differently and each fits differently. But you do get what you pay for. I find Shoei to be the most comfortable. 1 good tip I have found is to look for one with Ear Pockets it makes a helmet so much more comfortable.
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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I'm with the less, the better, crowd. I bought a FF because I ride the highway a good bit and thought espescially in the winter time, I'd like it.. Well, I did like the comfort and wind reduction in the cold or wet weather. BUT, the clostraphobic(?) feel was unfomfortable. I dont care who makes it, you cannot get the range of vision or motion from your neck with that big chunk of junk on your head... If you get used to it, thats fine. I'll wear mine again, but its not my prefered helmet by any means.. Part of my issue comes with the apes, my arms are at shoulder level. So, the "chin" protector gets in the way pretty quickly. I'm definitly in the to each his own crowd too.. I'm just not too clear on, if a crash is first and foremost in one's mind, why they even bother getting on a bike.. I see so many people posting about preparing for an accident, and though I do believe its wise to recognize the possibility, its hard to understand how you could enjoy the ride if it consumes every thought.. It just seems like it takes the fun out of riding, leaving it more of a nescisarry function than a hobby..
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by edilgdaor
Having ridden with a mandated helmet in California for years after not having them required, I always wore a full-face because I have a bunch of FF helmets from racing. Arais, because they're the most comfortable on my pointed head.

I'm in Oklahoma for awhile, so I took off for a ride without the helmet. Yeah, it was nice, but after awhile I got tired of the wind whipping my face and hair and bouncing my glasses. I DID kinda appreciate the extra vision, but I didn't see anything I wouldn't have seen with my helmet on.

I can definitely understand the appeal of NOT wearing a helmet.

But after about a hundred miles, I stopped. And when I went to get back on the bike, I just put my helmet on. Habit, I guess. I was just more comfortable with it on, partly because I'm used to it. I have adapted. I just move my head if I need to see.

( I've seen where the brain will accomodate and adjust to vision changes. In experiments, people are given glasses that make everything look upside down. After a while, the brain adapts, and they see things right-side up again. I think that's why people who ride with FF helmets don't feel like their vision is obstructed. )

And then it started to rain. No way was I taking my helmet off. It's more comfortable in the dry. In the wet, it's a no-brainer. There's a joke in there somewhere.
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by edilgdaor
Having ridden with a mandated helmet in California for years after not having them required, I always wore a full-face because I have a bunch of FF helmets from racing. Arais, because they're the most comfortable on my pointed head.

I'm in Oklahoma for awhile, so I took off for a ride without the helmet. Yeah, it was nice, but after awhile I got tired of the wind whipping my face and hair and bouncing my glasses. I DID kinda appreciate the extra vision, but I didn't see anything I wouldn't have seen with my helmet on.

I can definitely understand the appeal of NOT wearing a helmet.

But after about a hundred miles, I stopped. And when I went to get back on the bike, I just put my helmet on. Habit, I guess. I was just more comfortable with it on, partly because I'm used to it. I have adapted. I just move my head if I need to see.

( I've seen where the brain will accomodate and adjust to vision changes. In experiments, people are given glasses that make everything look upside down. After a while, the brain adapts, and they see things right-side up again. I think that's why people who ride with FF helmets don't feel like their vision is obstructed. )

And then it started to rain. No way was I taking my helmet off. It's more comfortable in the dry. In the wet, it's a no-brainer. There's a joke in there somewhere.
+1 I particularly like using a full face at night, then I can use my normal distance glasses, great vision,
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kered
go out and get a real full face helmet...shoei, arai, agv, soumy...youll be amazed at the difference between those and lower end brands such as bell, fulmer, nolan, hjc
I have a shoei and it isn't half as comfortable (for my head shape maybe) as the HJC I posted the link to, above. It doesn't feel lighter weight and doesn't have vents that are as good, either imho.

Don't forget, HJC makes most of Harley's helmets and you pay a real premium for the HD logo.

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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:23 AM
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I go back and forth on this issue in my own mind a lot. Part of it is that because I grew up in and lived in helmet-free states for most of my life, that I spent most of my riding life (since 1978) riding without a helmet. It still feels very good and comfortable to ride in a t-shirt without a helmet - kind of natural.

Now I live in a helmet law state and have to wear something. I usually wear a half helmet, but recently bought my first full face - the HJC. I wanted to see if I could stand to wear it before I dropped $500+ on an Arai. In some ways, it is actually more comfortable that the half (less noise, etc.) and riding in the rain is a treat. When it gets cooler here, it will feel very nice, I'm sure. Then I spend a weekend in Daytona and take the helmet off altogether and well, there you go.

I have heard it said that you don't dress for the ride, you dress for the fall. Those are wise words and I know if I fall down again someday, I would be very happy if I was wearing my armored mesh jacket and my full face helmet instead of a t-shirt and the half helmet. That inner conflict between safety (head) and the feeling of riding free (heart) has yet to resolve itself.

Have I confused anyone else, or just me?
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JBaker421
I have a shoei and it isn't half as comfortable (for my head shape maybe) as the HJC I posted the link to, above. It doesn't feel lighter weight and doesn't have vents that are as good, either imho.

Don't forget, HJC makes most of Harley's helmets and you pay a real premium for the HD logo.

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I have an issue with head shape and helmet fitment as well. I have a pretty large hat size (7 5/8) but more of an oval-shaped head. I first tried a Nolan and could not wear it for long because it is round. The HJC is more oval and is more comfortable, but could be better. The Arai profile is a "long oval" shape and should fit my head. It is supposed to be extremely lightweight and well-vented and worn by a lot of F1 drivers. I would like to try one on somewhere, though, before dropping $500+ on one.
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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For those of you who have tried a full face and didn't like it, remove the shield and get a pair of sunglasses/goggles. You won't get that claustaphobic feeling as bad. The loss of peripheral vision thing is an illusion. The loss of your face after a wreck using a half or 3/4 helmet isn't.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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My head is also oval and I have to try on every one. I can't buy online.
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JBaker421
I have a shoei and it isn't half as comfortable (for my head shape maybe) as the HJC I posted the link to, above. It doesn't feel lighter weight and doesn't have vents that are as good, either imho.

Don't forget, HJC makes most of Harley's helmets and you pay a real premium for the HD logo.

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hmmm...interesting...ive never heard anyone prefer an HJC over a shoei...my first helmet i ever bought was an HJC...i wore it for a while and didnt think anything of it...it was a great helmet...then one day a local shop had a shoei on sale...i tried it on in the store and immediately noticed a difference in weight...and it was way more comfortable...i guess it fit the shape of my head better...after going out and riding i was amazed at the aerodynamics of it...finally i could turn my head like its nothing without the wind catching the helmet and trying to rip my head off like on the HJC...the shoei was also alot quieter as far as wind noise...after that i swore i would never buy an HJC again...i mean it was a good helmet if you didnt know any better but the shoei was just alllllllot bet IMO
 



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