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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 07:24 PM
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If you dress for the wreck, how much armor do you put on? May as well buy a tank. It's been said many times: Motorcycles are inherently dangerous. I'll wear a 3/4 if I have to, but just can't do the Darth Vader thing.
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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I have a Shoei RF1000 which is a good helmet...paid $320 for it. I decided to get a half shell...paid $50 for it(Z1R). I really like the half because of the sounds, being able to talk to my wife while riding(she wears a Shoei RF1000), and yes, I fell like I can see better with the half. I will still wear the full as cold weather is coming on. Protection wise, there is no comparison...the full offers the best protection. Oh yeah, don't spit with the full hat on!
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by HGM
I'm just not too clear on, if a crash is first and foremost in one's mind, why they even bother getting on a bike.. I see so many people posting about preparing for an accident, and though I do believe its wise to recognize the possibility, its hard to understand how you could enjoy the ride if it consumes every thought..
Why do you think putting a helmet on before you leave requires the reasons for wearing the helmet consume your every thought as you ride?

Did you ever put on a coat before going outside in the cold? If so, did you then spend all your time outside contemplating low temperatures and different types of coats jackets and other means of keeping warm?

Do you imagine football players spend the entire game contemplating their protective gear?

For that matter - since you obviously enjoy riding motorcycles, do you contemplate your motorcycle as you ride? At some point, didn't you need to make some choices - Get a bike or don't get a bike? What kind of bike?

I make a choice to dress in accordance with what I believe is an acceptable level of risk - before I get on my bike, so that I *can* enjoy the ride.
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by irishviking
The ONLY time I have had a close call was when I was wearing a full face helmet. Just cant hear in the damn things
Then you likely can't hear without one either. Wearing a full face, I am often the first person to pull over when an emergency vehicle is approaching. Maybe that means I heard it first, maybe it just means everyone around me is slower to pull over. Don't know... but I don't have an problems hearing anything with a FF helmet.
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by scoteh
If you dress for the wreck, how much armor do you put on? May as well buy a tank.
Then again, there are those of us who are capable of determining what we feel is an acceptable level of risk, and dressing accordingly. I would certainly agree though - for those who find such a simple and basic thought process to be some form of extreme mental gymnastics, not wearing any safety gear at all is probably the best choice.
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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My Arai full face is the most comfortable helmet I have ever worn. I started with the half helmets and it did take a few rides to get use to the change but now I'd never go back.

At the end of the day just "ride your own ride"!
 

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Old Sep 17, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kered
hmmm...interesting...ive never heard anyone prefer an HJC over a shoei...
I went to three different shops and tried on helmets. Every full face and flip-up helmet they had. This included Arai's, Shoei's, AGV's, etc, etc. The only things I cared about were that the helmet fit my head, and it wasn't a gay color. I did not care what the helmet cost or who made it. I ended up with a gray HJC CL-SP. It fit my head the best, and the color isn't too fruity.
 
Old Sep 17, 2008 | 11:31 PM
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Hmm....Arais fit a lot of heads (they have the three shapes, you know)....but it could well be possible to not fit an Arai.

Shame. The Arai would be lighter, have better liners, more peripheral vision....

I have an Arai and a Scorpion. I kinda like the Scorpion better (certainly for the money), but the Arai is better in terms of fit-n-finish
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MidnitEvil
Why do you think putting a helmet on before you leave requires the reasons for wearing the helmet consume your every thought as you ride?

Did you ever put on a coat before going outside in the cold? If so, did you then spend all your time outside contemplating low temperatures and different types of coats jackets and other means of keeping warm?

Do you imagine football players spend the entire game contemplating their protective gear?

For that matter - since you obviously enjoy riding motorcycles, do you contemplate your motorcycle as you ride? At some point, didn't you need to make some choices - Get a bike or don't get a bike? What kind of bike?

I make a choice to dress in accordance with what I believe is an acceptable level of risk - before I get on my bike, so that I *can* enjoy the ride.

Haha, I'm not picking at you or singling you out by any means. Didnt mean for it to seem that way. If you feel more comfortable with a FF helmet, so be it, you should be comfortable. My question usually comes with the description that typicaly precedes someones choice to wear a FF. It usually starts out with "their safer", "you wont grind your face off" or something like that. I'm aware that at any given time, I could be involved in and accident. Be it in my truck, boat or bike, it really doesnt matter wich.. When I decide to ride, or first decided to ride, the last thing that came to mind was the safety factor. I do not plan to go down. Just like, I dont wear a life preserver on an airplane. I ride to enjoy the ride.

What made me post originally was my buddy. He bought his first bike last year. Every time I talked to him, he had another annalogy of a discovery he came accross. "The wind picks up when a powerline crosses the highway", "crash bars will save my legs", "the windshield is designed to flip forward when you hit it", etc, etc, etc...... Yes, I am aware of my surroundings and factors surrounding my ride, but it doesnt come close to paranoia. If it did, I wouldnt ride.. Again, not picking at anyone, just adding my point of view.
 
Old Sep 18, 2008 | 06:03 AM
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I like to wear my half when the weather is warm and nice....
...but for long and fast rides I wear my Roof!

It's the best FF I've ever had and you can wear it as a full and half...........


 



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