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Dyna vs. Softail
Road Captain
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From: Michigan
I had a dyna super glide, didn't really like it. got rid of it and got a softail deluxe. really liked the softail. I now have a street glide special. if I was able to afford 2 bikes I would have kept the deluxe.
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From: Florida
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He said he's not a super speedy rider.
You don't have to speed/ride fast, to scrape. I'm a slow rider, but I can scrape my bike any time, it's just in the lean when you turn, even slow speed turns. I've scraped my Softy, FLHS, and Dyna. Doesn't mean I'm a hard rider either...nor does it mean I'm some super skilled twisty master. It's just....easy to scrape.
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Cat, I realize it was a little pushy on my part on how I said that. Sorge did say he was not experienced. I have scraped on city streets before but both times have been doing left turns on green arrows and half way thru the turn, some one has made a right turn on there red. I personally think if you are over that far on a regular basic, you are going to run out of luck even if you find another bike that does not hit.
But whatever you like have at it. I personally think no mater how skilled you are on the multitude of changing conditions of city streets will bite you in the butt around here with all the odd manhole covers, bumps and paint markers all over the roads.
Sorge,thank for at lest not taking offence, that right there is a sure sign of being grown up. I'm 68 and way past grown up but that is why I still bike..to un-grow. However, I've just had so many boboes (not on my bike) that it scares me to scrape. Around here, just like ******* on a sport bike will get you a ticket if the police see you doing it.
But whatever you like have at it. I personally think no mater how skilled you are on the multitude of changing conditions of city streets will bite you in the butt around here with all the odd manhole covers, bumps and paint markers all over the roads.
Sorge,thank for at lest not taking offence, that right there is a sure sign of being grown up. I'm 68 and way past grown up but that is why I still bike..to un-grow. However, I've just had so many boboes (not on my bike) that it scares me to scrape. Around here, just like ******* on a sport bike will get you a ticket if the police see you doing it.
Last edited by Jackie Paper; Feb 25, 2017 at 02:12 PM.
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I have a 1992 Softail and I am approaching the limit of its lean angle. I ride mostly around town. I like everything about my Softail except the limited lean. I am contemplating another bike. I have considered something like Road King, Street Glide or Road Glide, but those seem like they are better suited to long distance riding. So I am thinking that something in the Dyna line might give me a little better handling and be suitable for my needs.
I am not a super speedy rider nor am I very experienced. I am just considering something that will give me a bit more room before I start scraping parts on the road.
I am not a super speedy rider nor am I very experienced. I am just considering something that will give me a bit more room before I start scraping parts on the road.
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No offense but curious about something. If you ride mostly around town, why are you concerned about approaching the limit of lean angle and the possibility of scrapping parts on the road? At regular city speeds, I guess I just have a hard time understanding where lean angle would come into play. Granted, not everybody rides the same but the only place that I can see where a person would be concerned about lean angle is if they rode the twisties a lot and really had to put some serious lean to get around some of those sharp corners. There's been a time or two that I scraped my foot pegs going around some really tight corners but not often enough to concern myself with.
I have only had one "hard scrape". I went past the point of the board hinge and dragged something with no give. It was a right turn highway on ramp. I gave it a bit of gas to get up to highway speed as I was turning.
As a relatively inexperienced rider, I like the idea that I have some room for error. At the moment, I am not sure how close I am to the limit in normal riding. I have other bikes that have a lot more lean room.
My technique could also use some work. I do not regularly get on the inside of the bike when I turn. I think doing that would give me a bit more room.
I have five bikes at the moment. Two dual sport bikes, two adventure bikes and the Harley. I like the Harley best. My kids use some of the other bikes, but ultimately, I see myself having just one or two bikes. Right now the Harley is my primary rider. I enjoy it the most.
I am not going to change bikes anytime soon. Just trying to educate myself so that when I am ready to make a change, I will have the benefit of more knowledge.
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OP, ride both and buy the one ya like most, your the one that's gonna have to ride it. Most will chime in and suggest the one they ride cause that's what works for them. Buy the bike that works for you. Good luck in your search
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My wife is a tough little Jewish girl from Long Island. I used to take offense to the way she spoke to me. Then I figured out she was just trying to communicate clearly. No reason to take offense from someone trying to make a point easy to understand.
Not grown up, just experienced. My brother says growing older is mandatory, growing up is optional - I opt to not grow up.
Yes, scares me to scrape too. But it is a nice warning.
Not grown up, just experienced. My brother says growing older is mandatory, growing up is optional - I opt to not grow up.
Yes, scares me to scrape too. But it is a nice warning.
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I do not scrape often. Usually on tight right turns. Either I carry a little too much speed into the turn or it is a bit tighter than I expect. First time was more than 90 degrees and had to turn a bit harder than I expected.
I have only had one "hard scrape". I went past the point of the board hinge and dragged something with no give. It was a right turn highway on ramp. I gave it a bit of gas to get up to highway speed as I was turning.
As a relatively inexperienced rider, I like the idea that I have some room for error. At the moment, I am not sure how close I am to the limit in normal riding. I have other bikes that have a lot more lean room.
My technique could also use some work. I do not regularly get on the inside of the bike when I turn. I think doing that would give me a bit more room.
I have five bikes at the moment. Two dual sport bikes, two adventure bikes and the Harley. I like the Harley best. My kids use some of the other bikes, but ultimately, I see myself having just one or two bikes. Right now the Harley is my primary rider. I enjoy it the most.
I am not going to change bikes anytime soon. Just trying to educate myself so that when I am ready to make a change, I will have the benefit of more knowledge.
I have only had one "hard scrape". I went past the point of the board hinge and dragged something with no give. It was a right turn highway on ramp. I gave it a bit of gas to get up to highway speed as I was turning.
As a relatively inexperienced rider, I like the idea that I have some room for error. At the moment, I am not sure how close I am to the limit in normal riding. I have other bikes that have a lot more lean room.
My technique could also use some work. I do not regularly get on the inside of the bike when I turn. I think doing that would give me a bit more room.
I have five bikes at the moment. Two dual sport bikes, two adventure bikes and the Harley. I like the Harley best. My kids use some of the other bikes, but ultimately, I see myself having just one or two bikes. Right now the Harley is my primary rider. I enjoy it the most.
I am not going to change bikes anytime soon. Just trying to educate myself so that when I am ready to make a change, I will have the benefit of more knowledge.
I understand your points. About the educating yourself before you make a change, I think you are doing the right thing. Before I bought my 05 Springer, I did a lot of research and when I bought her, I knew I had done the right thing and never looked back. I might add that the more you ride, the more relaxed you'll become and the less that you'll concern yourself about what might happen and just enjoy the ride. There is a good chance that something will scrape a time or two but don't worry about the rarities, because some might call that overthinking and riding is supposed to be fun.
Good luck