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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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I believe the Dow lost 33.8% and middle-class America is devistated because lenders got greedy and fostered false housing evaluations and adopted poor lending practices (no integrity).

Evidence: U.S. foreclosure filings in 2008 rose 81% from 2007
 
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:42 AM
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That's only the surface, keep digging and you will find the root reasons. Hint: this all started i the late 70's
 
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:54 AM
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Interesting study done by Ohio State:

http://www.osu.edu/news/newsitem2151

You don't hear much about it because it doesn't support either parties agenda on why this occurred. Paul Harvey is the only person I have ever heard mention it.
 
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I see your point Dave (that link is a very interesting read) but I'm too dense to get your's Lures. What'cha thinking of as another contributor?
 
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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I see your point Dave (that link is a very interesting read) but I'm too dense to get your's Lures. What'cha thinking of as another contributor?
No Lures, as I am too dense to give them.

I just think it is interesting that we never heard anything about the study. To my knowledge it was never mentioned on conservative talk radio or "drive by media" (Rush's term not mine). The only reason I can think is that it doesn't substantiate either parties agenda/spin on cause.
 
Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Interesting study done by Ohio State:

http://www.osu.edu/news/newsitem2151

You don't hear much about it because it doesn't support either parties agenda on why this occurred. Paul Harvey is the only person I have ever heard mention it.
You only have to take a trip to Florida to realize how many people were involved in real estate "flipping" there. But that is only the result of the lending policies caused by the Community Reinvestment Act sponsored by the Carter Administration in 1977. This act was then expanded by the Clinton Administration in 1997. Then further fueled with unusually low FED interest rates promoted by Alan Greenspan and the Bush Administration in the early 2000's. Once the money provided so cheaply by the Fed began to flow...the housing bubble started in 1998 started to grow out of control and was left unchecked by any Administration. The aholes in Washington were warned repeatedly by economists...but ignored the warnings. CONGRESS CAUSED THIS. Not the Presidents. The Presidents ignored it but CONGRESS created it.

The lenders? 110% f&%king greed drove them. The borrowers? 110% greed again. Now we pay for their greed. Really sucks.
 
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Another catalyst in this downfall was the lenders policies of giving large loans to people who maybe a few years ago would have never gotten them. I remember being reviewed for loans to match the household income. Adjustable rate mortgages were a last ditch efforts. Filing for bankruptcy was a shameful event, now it is common place. Lets not mention the oil price speculation fever that drove up prices and some people made some money. There is a brillant group out there that created this mess to watch countries fold. My 2 cents.
 
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what happened in a nutshell.........GREED
 
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Originally Posted by RangeRat
I believe the Dow lost 33.8% and middle-class America is devistated because lenders got greedy and fostered false housing evaluations and adopted poor lending practices (no integrity).

Evidence: U.S. foreclosure filings in 2008 rose 81% from 2007
How about the fact that they were forced by the government in the 90's to change lending criteria to give more high risk loans. Let alone these high risk people buying houses that they couldn't afford, darn well knew it, and being overall irresponsible financially. But no, it's never the individual's fault, or the government's fault is it. It's always the evil greedy corporations
Lenders lose money on the vast majority of foreclosed home, and you want to talk about how greedy they are. Open your eyes before you get taken hook line and sinker by what the media wants you to believe.
 
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The second shoe is about to drop - Commercial real estate is gonna be in big trouble once tens of thousands of retail stores close and the country is awash in vacant strip malls causing a landslide of new foreclosures.
 



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