Made in China?
Madame Moderator
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From: The Peach State
Militarily, maybe even socially, China is Communist; economically though, they are most definitely capitalist. Their new motto is: "To get rich is glorious!"
And +1 on the people, they're great. It's the government that's a whole other thing.
And +1 on the people, they're great. It's the government that's a whole other thing.
Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 240
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From: West Michigan
Totally Agree............next country to watch is India, just wait and see
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From: Little Apple, Iowa, U.S.S.A.
It's way too late... WAL*MART = CHINA*MART ... Way too late.
Also agree... It's not the people, it's their government. Just like it is here. The so called "change" that's been rammed down your throat, isn't going to happen either.
Also agree... It's not the people, it's their government. Just like it is here. The so called "change" that's been rammed down your throat, isn't going to happen either.
Last edited by Ratster; Jan 22, 2009 at 03:50 PM.
Road Master
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Oak Park, IL
And for those products coming out of China a big part of the issue is trying to make those parts in the US. Between the EPA nd OSHA there are some processes that cannot be done here at any price and others that are just plain cost prohibitive. Now having said that, I would not want the poisons from say a plating plant dumping crap into my lakes and rivers, so what do you do?
And yes I do buy American whenever possible, even my home computers are hand built from mostly US components ( what ever I can get ).
Seasoned HDF Member
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From: Florence, MT (Bitterroot Valley)
Anybody been around long enough to remember when if it said "Made in Japan" on it, it was total garbage, junk, worthless. Somewhere back in the 50's and 60's??? The world just kept on spinning, and here we are now, saying the same thing about "Made in China"... Hmmm, 50 years from now.........
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From: Commerce, Mich.
Anybody been around long enough to remember when if it said "Made in Japan" on it, it was total garbage, junk, worthless. Somewhere back in the 50's and 60's??? The world just kept on spinning, and here we are now, saying the same thing about "Made in China"... Hmmm, 50 years from now.........
And now we are supporting them, at the expense of the American workforce.
Why is it that we are the only country in the world, that would rather send work away, than to put our citizens to work? It makes no sense whatsoever.
Road Captain
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 661
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From: Da Windy City
Tom Smith started the day early having set his
alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6am.
While his coffeepot
(MADE IN CHINA )
was perking, he shaved with his
electric razor
(MADE IN HONG KONG ).
He put on a
dress shirt
(MADE IN SRI LANKA ),
designer jeans
(MADE IN SINGAPORE )
and
tennis shoes
(MADE IN KOREA )
After cooking his breakfast in his new
electric skillet
(MADE IN INDIA )
he sat down with his
calculator
(MADE IN MEXICO )
to see how much he could spend today. After setting his
watch
(MADE IN TAIWAN )
to the radio
(MADE20IN INDIA )
he got in his car
(MADE IN GERMANY )
filled it with GAS
(from Saudi Arabia )
and continued his search
for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.
At the end
of yet another discouraging
and fruitless day
checking his
Computer
(Made In Malaysia ),
Joe decided to relax for a while.
He put on his sandals
(MADE IN BRAZIL )
poured himself a glass of
wine
(MADE IN FRANCE )
and turned on his
TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA ),
and then wondered
why he can't find
a good paying job
in AMERICA
alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6am.
While his coffeepot
(MADE IN CHINA )
was perking, he shaved with his
electric razor
(MADE IN HONG KONG ).
He put on a
dress shirt
(MADE IN SRI LANKA ),
designer jeans
(MADE IN SINGAPORE )
and
tennis shoes
(MADE IN KOREA )
After cooking his breakfast in his new
electric skillet
(MADE IN INDIA )
he sat down with his
calculator
(MADE IN MEXICO )
to see how much he could spend today. After setting his
watch
(MADE IN TAIWAN )
to the radio
(MADE20IN INDIA )
he got in his car
(MADE IN GERMANY )
filled it with GAS
(from Saudi Arabia )
and continued his search
for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.
At the end
of yet another discouraging
and fruitless day
checking his
Computer
(Made In Malaysia ),
Joe decided to relax for a while.
He put on his sandals
(MADE IN BRAZIL )
poured himself a glass of
wine
(MADE IN FRANCE )
and turned on his
TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA ),
and then wondered
why he can't find
a good paying job
in AMERICA
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Road Warrior
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,775
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From: Simpson County Kentucky
India doesn't want our manufacturing jobs, they want our IT jobs! Freaking sweatshops turning out thousands of lines of crap code. I have to use an outsource company at work and rather then taking the time and writing a good solid program to start with, they will write thousands and thousands of lines of code until they get it right. In India they just have rooms full of programmers working for wages we would be embarresed to pay our janitors, Truely frightening!
And for those products coming out of China a big part of the issue is trying to make those parts in the US. Between the EPA nd OSHA there are some processes that cannot be done here at any price and others that are just plain cost prohibitive. Now having said that, I would not want the poisons from say a plating plant dumping crap into my lakes and rivers, so what do you do?
And yes I do buy American whenever possible, even my home computers are hand built from mostly US components ( what ever I can get ).
And for those products coming out of China a big part of the issue is trying to make those parts in the US. Between the EPA nd OSHA there are some processes that cannot be done here at any price and others that are just plain cost prohibitive. Now having said that, I would not want the poisons from say a plating plant dumping crap into my lakes and rivers, so what do you do?
And yes I do buy American whenever possible, even my home computers are hand built from mostly US components ( what ever I can get ).
I guess that's why Triumph and others have outsourced production to their two new plants in India....
As far as China goes it's like anything else as it depends on what you are buying. At present China builds the best 1:18 scale Die cast motorcycles
and there quality is outstanding; I have roughly 150 of them. There level of detail is absolutely incredible. They also manufacturer the best small scale HO trains in the world.
Bottom line is the fact our government restrictions are killing production so why not build it elsewhere and still get the money while selling it here.. I don't personally care where they build it, just let me buy it. Can you imagine the effects of protectionism if an Executive Order came down the pipe that stated nothing could be brought into the US. It all has to be built or manufactured here and you can't ship the parts in to do it either? Talk about suicide, even Harley would die.....
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 360
Likes: 0
From: O'fallon, Missouri
Hogwash..that says it all!!!
I was at my dealer a about a year ago and saw this "Temperature gage dipstick" for my Softail. l thought that would look great on my bike. I took it off the shelf and it said "Made in Taiwan" underneath "Harley Davidson". I said to myself no way, thats gonna give me problems. About a month later I was at my dealer again with a gift card and said "screw it" I'll try it out. Sure enough it wasn't a month later and I was out ridin and when I got home I noticed oil all over my oil tank and down the side of my bike. I was freakin pissed!!! I took that thing out and smashed it with a hammer. I put the stock one back in and haven't had any problems. I will never buy another Harley "Genuine" part for my bike unless its made in America. I don't know if my stock dipstick was made in America but it doesn't **** oil down the side of my bike.
I was at my dealer a about a year ago and saw this "Temperature gage dipstick" for my Softail. l thought that would look great on my bike. I took it off the shelf and it said "Made in Taiwan" underneath "Harley Davidson". I said to myself no way, thats gonna give me problems. About a month later I was at my dealer again with a gift card and said "screw it" I'll try it out. Sure enough it wasn't a month later and I was out ridin and when I got home I noticed oil all over my oil tank and down the side of my bike. I was freakin pissed!!! I took that thing out and smashed it with a hammer. I put the stock one back in and haven't had any problems. I will never buy another Harley "Genuine" part for my bike unless its made in America. I don't know if my stock dipstick was made in America but it doesn't **** oil down the side of my bike.