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Old May 24, 2009 | 05:45 AM
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At least were all still free to ride what we want! For now anyway!
 
Old May 24, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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We just had a PGR event, where we were given a patch by the event sponsor. One of our members has a collection of bikes, and rides a different one to each mission, and on that day he had a nearly new BMW. That thing purred and whirred like a sewing machine, so I asked him if he could sew on our new patches.

Everyone thought that was pretty funny--including him !
 
Old May 24, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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I just farted...does anyone care?...:>)
Is it an American made fart?
 
Old May 24, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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What amazes me is how adamant "some" metric riders are in justifying their choice. I don't ask and believe to each their own but jeez most of the time I get a 2 minute dissertation on out dated technology, leaks oil etc. Ad nauseam. I personally don't care what you ride-that's your choice, I made my choice: 2003 FLSTC 45,000 trouble free miles.
 
Old May 24, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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A few years back I got back into riding after a 10 year bout with Menier's disease (Lot's of unpredictable dizzy spells). One of my friends who rides a metric went out of his way to try to convince me not to buy a Harley. Well, after riding sport bikes and metrics I decided I wanted a Harley. No particular reason, just wanted one. I purchased a Road King and loved it. But, when I rode with my "friend " and one of his obnoxius buddies, the crap I took for riding a Harley was unbelievable. It never stopped. Same old crap about oil leaks and constant break downs. I went to the cruiser style bike because the sport bike riding position is hard on my legs now. The cruiser sitting position is more comfortable. I know the metric cruisers are good bikes but to me they look cheesy. The stupid looking curly cue fenders, cheap looking controls and motors that look from a distance like they're formed from plastic. I know they work well, I just didn't like the way they look or feel. The Harley's felt solid and I liked that. It's O.K. to be passionate about what you have but not to the point where it causes friendships to end. BTW, did I mention I don't ride with those two knuckleheads anymore and since they have both moved away don't keep in touch either. Harley riders can be obnoxiuosly passionate about their rides, but the metric guys are just as bad or worse. Don't we buy what we ride because it's what we like? If everyone had the same thing, what we have wouldn't be as special to us. Why does anybody care what the other guy rides anyway? Just ride and enjoy. Sorry to ramble.
 
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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couldn't have said it better, ride what you like and who cares what others think of you. Ride what fits you and your lifestyle best. For me, I like to be different and ride not what everyone else has which is a loud HD ultra classic around here, but a valk. interstate which are not made anymore and a joy to drive as well.
 
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Regis
All of this is fine by me. All of you are entitled to your opinion, as I am entitled to mine. It is one of the last things we’ve got in this PC, don’t-make-anybody-mad-world. Call me an Elitist, I don’t care, as I see it everywhere. Go visit the Corvette forum and you’d be surprised at how elitist that is, even between the distinct generations. The C5 guys bag on the C4, calling it a doorstop and one of the ugliest Vette’s ever built. The Chevy guys bag on the Ford guys and so on and so on. Give me grief if you’d like, but that’s my say

It goes deeper than that if you want to see it for what it is. I see the ‘Buy American’ struck a raw nerve. I’ve been watching this for years and what I’m seeing is the destruction of the American Middle Class. Wages have been stagnant against inflation for decades and what we’re seeing is a rising in the Gini Coefficient. Simply put, that means that the income disparity between the Rich and the Poor is widening and we’re approaching the numbers that Latin America has. We’re closer to them than Europe.

We used to produce high quality products in this country and in some instances, still do. We used to have a huge steel and textile industries and they’re nearly gone. We used to have a whole lot of smaller stores and now we have a Wal-Mart on every corner. What influenced me was a few direct experiences of the quality that used to be America. A long-time friends 1946 Chevy pickup, opening the doors and hood and feeling the solidity and quality of the handles, the solid action, closing and latching. Finding a vintage O’Keefe and Merit stove from the 40’s in a thrift shop and just as curiosity, twisting one of the *****. I was surprised at how tight and sweet it felt as I turned it. Imagine that, a 50 year old stove that gleams in white porcelain and chrome and still functions exceptionally well.

Working as a computer technician for Xerox in the early 80’s and repairing the last of the big daisy wheel printers. Laugh, clown laugh, but the big Xerox Diablo 630 printers were exceptionally well built. They weighed 50 pounds and that was because of the cast frames. The carriage cruised on a pair of ž inch thick round steel stock that was polished and machined to a high gleam and had brass and babbit bearings. What do you get now? Some piece of disposable crap that has the absolute minimum that you can get away with. You can pick up most modern printers and literally flex them.

My woman still has her Suzuki Intruder and I’ll tell you this; everything on it, is twice as hard to do as on a Harley Davidson. Just removing the seat was a huge exercise in patience. Changing a turn-signal lamp took ten minutes, as the socket kept rotating deep in its rubber cup. Getting to the dual carbs wasn’t easy either and I decided to heck with it and took it to Suzuki dealer after Suzuki dealer. Found one guy in the whole north Los Angeles County area who could do a quality job, but most of the mechanics were apathetic and left numerous damages to the bike, including deep scratches on a custom paint job, disconnected wiring and poor workmanship. You could smell the apathy when you were back there. After all, it is just a disposable bike, like everything else around us. Throw it away when you’re done and get a new one.

The blame is widespread. There is no replacement for the wealth that was lost in the Housing Bubble, as that was the last Bubble to be blown, after the numerous ones that preceeded it, including the Dot-Com and Tech bubble. No Country produces wealth without creating something of physical value. A real industrial economy requires a ton of CapEx or Capital Expenditure spending, while a Service Economy requires little. The mainstream media tells you not the truth, but a socially engineered lie. You’ll rarely see what your Local, State or Federal Government is voting on. You have to dig to find the truth now. No news on IBM dumping 5,000 jobs just a couple of months ago and outsourcing that to India. What were those laid-off people making? I’ve saved numerous articles, just for perspective. Here’s a nice example. MSNBC, Dec 21, 2006; “Ex-Pfizer CEO to leave $180 million richer”. Now look at MarketWatch, Jan 22, 2007, just a month later, “Pfizer to slash 10% of workforce….that it plans to slash about 10% of it’s workforce by the end of 2008, or roughly 10,000 workers.

I live in a bankrupt city, surrounded by a bankrupt state and an increasingly bankrupt country, that relies on the kindness of foreigners to buy our U.S. Treasury Bonds, but who are now wondering what kind of trash they are holding. Look at the news today and see China, Venezuela and other countries increasingly looking at dumping the dollar as the reserve currency. Even the Mideast is contemplating this.

Rag on me, bag on me, but I’m not going to apologize. I only brought this up, because I’m tired of hearing metric cruiser riders or associates make excuses for not buying a Harley by digging into the brand that I’m proud to own. If you like your bike better fine, but don’t bag on mine, as I find it to be a quality build throughout. Every time I wash it, I can stick my hands just about anywhere on there and not get a scratch or cut from cheap castings, where they cut the corners and didn’t take the flash off, or poor workmanship.

No regrets here.
I guess you've swallowed the bait..hook..line..and sinker.
 
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 11:11 PM
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This is a great thread! Makes me think. Thanks to all
 
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Those that have anything bad to say about Harleys,are everywhere and are not going away.They have never bothered me,I guess because it has never mattered.My Harleys to me are beyond describing.99% of the time those people do not rate a comeback.How could they ever understand,especially when most of them have a hard time figuring out where to put the fluids in their bikes.
 



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