Sobriety Checkpoints
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From: Central Oklahoma
I'll never forget the night after a Willie Nelson concert at a private rodeo arena. The Highway patrol was waiting at the rodeo entrance on the county road. When we got up to the chek point, my roommate opened the back door, leaned out and puked on the cops nice shinny black boots. We told the cop that he ate a bad hotdog and that he had food poisoning, but I'm sure that it was the fifth of tequila that he washed it down with. 
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From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
Well, this statement makes it sound like that's all they/we think about...
They don't care about stopping drunks, they are out for revenue for the city.
Never have I, or anyone I know, written a citation to someone thinking about how much money the City was going to make.
Last edited by DannyZ71; Jul 25, 2009 at 01:48 PM.
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
Ok, so let's spend 40,000k on a checkpoint. Stop 3,000 cars, get 10 drunk drivers off the road, get a few people with warrants, and a few people with drugs.
Say we end up with 20 people. Meaning 1.5%. We just spent 40 grand and made a thousand dollars tops out of the deal. We just wasted 39 grand.
Plus I don't know about down in pittsburgh but up here they use all but maybe one cop on the force at them. Meaning no cops on the streets for all the killers to have their way, all the drug dealers to go about their business, robbers stealing from anywhere and anyone, etc.
There goes more resources to waste.
Or we can do the efficient thing, and in most cases bring in a surplus of money by using a saturation or roving patrol. Get those dealers, get those drunk drivers, get those idiotic drivers, get those stolen vehicles, be everywhere at one time instead of one place for hours on end.
Hell, they even use the helicopters when they do saturation patrols here.
If you want to be like the most of Americans and support idiotic wasteful things like this instead of being smart about it, then you deserve everything this country is coming to.
When are people going to realize just because people in power do something doesn't make it right, responsible, or worth it? They rely to much on their gut and beliefs than actually using their head. Well, I take that back because they might be using their head but damn this country is stupid. I learned more in 3 years out of school than I did in 13 years of it.
Say we end up with 20 people. Meaning 1.5%. We just spent 40 grand and made a thousand dollars tops out of the deal. We just wasted 39 grand.
Plus I don't know about down in pittsburgh but up here they use all but maybe one cop on the force at them. Meaning no cops on the streets for all the killers to have their way, all the drug dealers to go about their business, robbers stealing from anywhere and anyone, etc.
There goes more resources to waste.
Or we can do the efficient thing, and in most cases bring in a surplus of money by using a saturation or roving patrol. Get those dealers, get those drunk drivers, get those idiotic drivers, get those stolen vehicles, be everywhere at one time instead of one place for hours on end.
Hell, they even use the helicopters when they do saturation patrols here.
If you want to be like the most of Americans and support idiotic wasteful things like this instead of being smart about it, then you deserve everything this country is coming to.
When are people going to realize just because people in power do something doesn't make it right, responsible, or worth it? They rely to much on their gut and beliefs than actually using their head. Well, I take that back because they might be using their head but damn this country is stupid. I learned more in 3 years out of school than I did in 13 years of it.
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From: Mahomet IL
Problem being of course you legally do not have to answer any of those questions and the fact that you do not answer cannot be officially used by the officer as the cause of his/her suspicion. At my stop I would only crack the window enough to provide my ID, insurance and registration.....then the fun began. I had not had a drink in weeks, but I just hate this sort of thing.
I was pulled to the side for refusing to answer the questions. I am sure if I pushed the issue the officer would have just said he smelled what he thought was alcohol. Making friends and influencing people as usual. It would have been easier on all of us if I had just answered the questions and gone on my way. But, I just cannot do it.
I was pulled to the side for refusing to answer the questions. I am sure if I pushed the issue the officer would have just said he smelled what he thought was alcohol. Making friends and influencing people as usual. It would have been easier on all of us if I had just answered the questions and gone on my way. But, I just cannot do it.
Good for you. This falls under the "duty of civil disobediance" as far as I'm concerned.
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The state trooper was disappointed last year when he pulled me over at 2AM and I had not been drinking or taking drugs. I did confess to him that I had over eaten a lot that day. He had difficulty understanding how a 68 year old man out after midnight was only getting high on the scenery and riding.
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From: anacoco, la
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The SAME posters who whine about a DUI checkpoint are the FIRST to give their condolences to someone who gets hit by a drunk in a 'cage'...
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I'm sorry for your loss.
Your loss has hampered your ability to be objective about this topic. It hits too close to home for you.
It's like the Brady bill. Brady almost gets killed by Hinckley, and his wife thinks that all guns should be outlawed.
Nobody is saying drunks should be driving.....what were saying is probable cause should be used according to the drivers INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS.
Stopping EVERYONE and in effect "fishing" for a lawbreaker, is essentially saying EVERYONE is a suspect in a crime. It's a knee jerk reaction.
If someone's driving drunk...you can tell. I've seen more than my share in the last 25 years or so of driving.
~Joe
Last edited by traveler; Jul 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM.