Sobriety Checkpoints
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From: Breaux Bridge, LA
I am not advocating drunk driving, but my take on this entire mess is this. If you cause a wreck, what difference does it make how you caused it? If I rear end you while not having my full attention to my driving not much is going to happen. If I rear end you and cause the same damage but have been drinking, well all hell is going to break loose.
I feel that the penalty should be the same for the same result. Regardless of how you arrived at that result.
There was a kid that killed three people while text messaging, his penalty. He was on Oprah saying how bad text messaging was. Try and get that penalty if you had a drink.
I feel that the penalty should be the same for the same result. Regardless of how you arrived at that result.
There was a kid that killed three people while text messaging, his penalty. He was on Oprah saying how bad text messaging was. Try and get that penalty if you had a drink.
And if you're drinking & YOU'RE the one who gets rear ended, you're still at fault..
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From: PA.
Tequila John ,Like you I lost my best friend (my brother)and my nephew in car "accident". They were T-boned by a drunk driver that ran a red light.It was this guys third DWI.
So excuse me but I am willing to give up some rights so this doesn't happen to anyone else. What about my brothers and nephews rights and my sister inlaw who lost both a husband and a son. I have no tolerance for people who drink and drive I guess it has to hit home to feel this way but it was NO Accident.
So excuse me but I am willing to give up some rights so this doesn't happen to anyone else. What about my brothers and nephews rights and my sister inlaw who lost both a husband and a son. I have no tolerance for people who drink and drive I guess it has to hit home to feel this way but it was NO Accident.
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From: CA
I just rode over 3400 miles throughout the western USA. Along my travels my only vehicular threats came from idiot drivers not paying attention for whatever reasons, speeding commercial truck drivers, or people who probably should have never been issued a drivers license to begin with. My point is this; why only target drivers that drink? Statistically, unskilled and unaware drivers (cell phoners, texters..,) are by far the biggest threat due to their sheer numbers.
Now, if we start just checking all drivers at random, then yes, we are becoming like the *****, the Soviets and so forth.
Just one man's opinion here, but I had 3400 miles to consider this.
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From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
Why does this have to come up everytime it's announced that a checkpoint is going to be put up.
There is nothing in the Bible, or the U.S. Constitution that gives anyone the "right" to operate a motor vehicle. It is a priviledge. One that can be taken away. And one that is subject to the whims of the governing body for the location that priviledge is bestowed.
You don't want to mess with this? You have two options.
1. Don't drink and drive.
2. Don't drive.
There is nothing in the Bible, or the U.S. Constitution that gives anyone the "right" to operate a motor vehicle. It is a priviledge. One that can be taken away. And one that is subject to the whims of the governing body for the location that priviledge is bestowed.
You don't want to mess with this? You have two options.
1. Don't drink and drive.
2. Don't drive.
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Sobriety check points are a very effective (and legal) method of removing drunks from our roads. It's amazing to me that more than half of the posters here would object. As bike riders we have the most to loose than even the thousands of cagers than are killed yearly by drunks. That drunk that they took off the road may well have been the guy that ran right over you as you sat at a stop sign leaving only scattered pieces of chrome and a grease spot on the highway as he drives on home unconcerned.
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From: East TN
I agree with you that serious mv violations and killing someone is about as serious as you can get, should be punished more severely.
Don't agree with your analogy of going door to door and searching houses. Going through a properly conducted sobriety checkpoint isn't much more of a privacy invasion than going through a toll booth. The officer develops his reasonable suspicion in about 15 seconds while talking to you............. just about how long it would take the wife to tell you've had too much to drink.
Don't agree with your analogy of going door to door and searching houses. Going through a properly conducted sobriety checkpoint isn't much more of a privacy invasion than going through a toll booth. The officer develops his reasonable suspicion in about 15 seconds while talking to you............. just about how long it would take the wife to tell you've had too much to drink.
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From: Bella Vista, AR
Not in AR, because you are required to have a license and liability insurance to drive on public roads. You are required to carry proof of these things so asking to see them is not an invasion of privacy.