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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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I have owned a Sportster since 1990 and recently purchased a 2006 StreetBob. Love it. Just wondering why does Harley make two versions of the Twin Cam engine, one balanced and one not. I like my Dyna version just fine but don't quite understand the need for a internally different Big Twin.
 
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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The frames of the softtails are different. Dyna's and touring bikes both use rubber mounts for the motors to reduce vibration feedback to the rider/passenger. Softtails, having no rubber mounts, need something else to balance out the motor.
 
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Did the Dyna owners get the best part of that deal or the Softtail owners?
 
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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I'd have to say the Dyna Owners from my experience on a Wide Glide. You get more power without the counter balancers and well it looks pretty damn cool to see your motor dance around at idle being rubber mounted[sm=biker.gif].
 
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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I think we got the better deal. I love the shaking "A" motor at idle, then it's smooth through the powerband. The "B" motors are dead smooth at idle, then you get the buzz as the RPM's rise. T`ain't for me.
 
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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This has been a debate on here before, I have the FLSTCI with the balanced motor and love it. It is so smooth at slow speed or highway speed. I read on here about a buzz at 70 MPH man I don't here it, I do here an awsome V-twin purring along at 70. I think there both great motors I would not knock either one. I have seen people write on here how the just went on a long ride and got home to notice something had fallin off the bike during the ride like passenger foot pegs and tail lights etc. wonder witch motor they had. Tom
 
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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ORIGINAL: Cryptoboy

The frames of the softtails are different. Dyna's and touring bikes both use rubber mounts for the motors to reduce vibration feedback to the rider/passenger. Softtails, having no rubber mounts, need something else to balance out the motor.
Yup, that pretty much sums it up. I know that Harley likes to tout the 88B as having a tighter fit in the frame for a "cleaner look" but I don't know if the entire "B" motor was designed just for this look or not.

As far as the other comments about the vibes being good or bad--I would love to see that 88B in some sort of Bagger. I don't mind the vibes on my Street Glide but I would really like to have the option of having either motor...and a third option for a V-Rod Bagger as well.
 
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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As far as the other comments about the vibes being good or bad--I would love to see that 88B in some sort of Bagger. I don't mind the vibes on my Street Glide but I would really like to have the option of having either motor...and a third option for a V-Rod Bagger as well.
I agree about the "88B in a bagger" comment. I got to test ride a RK Classic a couple of weekends ago. I was kind of disappointed in how much the bike shook. And, as for it smoothing out at highway speeds and being smoother than a Softail's 88B motor...well, IMHO, my 88B is just as smooth at 70-80 as the rubber mounted 88A.

I also rode a Street Bob and, for this type of bike, I could accept the shaking a LOT more so than on the bagger. A "Touring" bike shouldn't shake as much as H-D baggers do (again, just my opinion ). They shouldn't be as smooth as butter...after all, you need a little bit of vibes so ya know you're on a Harley! Perhaps H-D could make an 88B or 88A option...

To give credit where credit is due, the RKC...she was a bit smoother over bumps than my Heritage...just not a lot smoother.

 
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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I think it's half dozen of one, 6 of the other. My buziness doesn't take place until 80mph, but it's very distinct. You lose HP with the counterbalancers but it doesn't shake at all at idle. Whatever you prefer.
 
Old Jun 5, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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I rode just about every type of bike (except a sporty for some reason) trying to sort out just what I wanted. Every one of my friends who rode baggers said that there was a huge difference in the rides between the softails and the rubber mounted bikes. For the life of me I couldn't figure out why I couldn't feel the difference. Then a friend of mine reminded me that I drive an Expedition. The thing's got a truck frame. My butt was "used to a truck ride" said my friend! My butt was so desensitized that the "ride" didn't matter. He said "go with the feel!" So I did. Man, I love my fatty.
 



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