Harley being fast?
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You are such a freakin' liar!!!!!!!!!! First you state you own a V-MAX, then you state that you DID own a V-MAX and made $2000 on it....(crock of sh*t) now you say you own a Hayabusa...and yesterday you drove a M109..UP TO 145MPH....and soon you'll get the 14....
YOU ARE ONE F*CKED UP PANSY!!!!!!!!!
SHOW US YOUR BIKE!!
YOU ARE ONE F*CKED UP PANSY!!!!!!!!!
SHOW US YOUR BIKE!!
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RE: Harley being fast?
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[quote]ORIGINAL: grunt
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Actually right now you are being insulting. Arrogant to a fault, and it shows. And it seems more than obvious you WANT a metric bike. So WTF is stopping you? If you wanted a Harley you would NOT be slamming them so hard.
It is pure fact that HDs hold their resale. A 99 Springer that is being sold for over $15k (which is all over the cycle trader mag)? It did not cost that new. And every metric bike depreciates at least 50% in the first 3 years. Even the 'other' American bike Victory depreciates like that. I can wait 1 year and the 18k Kingpin will be below 14k used. If I would have left it stock, I could have sold my 2006 StreetBob for at least the same price. Your metrics, unless they are in the sub-$7k bra
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[quote]ORIGINAL: FalconA
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ORIGINAL: FalconA
I hope you are kidding about a bike only being worth $3000 in three years. Another thing I have been doing is researching resale as well. Can you tell me why so many Harleys are for sale, in comparison to any other brands?
And just so you know, December issue of cycle world compared the Vmax to your Vrod, and guess what, the max out performed everything from comfort to acceleration, ride and handling! Now this Yamaha was released in 1984 as an 85' model and hasn't changed but a little in over 20 years and it still kicks the Vrod??? How can that be??
Go to NADA.com and look at what the average Harley depreciates please. I did, I looked at a year old model, and saw it took a $7G dump in one year!! That is almost what a Vmax costs new! An import is much cheaper, with more to offer, and if it looses a couple G's at best in a few years, big deal to having almost twice the investment, half the power and much more $ lossed when selling.
Please go to cycle trader.com, and see how many are for sale, along with any local newspaper, MY GOD! Vrods take a huge loss, worth maybe half or less in a couple years.
Talking to many Harley riders, the Vrod is very much hated by the Harley community. I don't know why it would be, because its finally an attempt to make a modern chassis, it just fails because of crank design. I wish Porshe would have been able to design and manufacture a Vtwin, rather then just manufacture something Harley designed.
I have friends that have Buells, and now after they rode the Hayabusa, the Buells are for sale. He has a White lightning with over $10 Gs in the engine, and can't even get $6500 for the whole bike.
I know many people that have dumped huge money in their Harleys, to try in vain to get an equal power to what most big bore cruisers, such as a Goldwing or M109, or VTX, Warrior, Vulcan already have.
Don't fool yourself with resale, as this is no longer a viable argument. Sorry to burst your bubble.
I came here to research my next purchase, I am already getting insulted if I knock Harleys. I am trying to learn about them, and compare them legitimatly to other bikes. Please don't insult me by telling me, "If you have to explain it then I just won't understand". That is a copout. These are just machines, nothing more, and to buy a machine to make friends seems strange at best as well. I don't need to buy something to impress others, I just want the most I can get for the money spent. Sorry if I don't fall into the cult way of thinking.
ORIGINAL: eazy
Trying not to be bias, but you are. If you don't know, you don't understand. V-Rods, like everything, have foreign parts, but are American made. I have fun one my bike and it is fast enogh to get out of bad situations. A real rider knows that Harleys are junk? No, a real rider wouldn't put themselves in a situation that they have to have power to go over 110 or need 7500 rpm. Got 9k though.
And all for 12000. It will be worth 3000 in three years.
Your not open-minded like you say, so like ****** said--Go play in traffic.
Trying not to be bias, but you are. If you don't know, you don't understand. V-Rods, like everything, have foreign parts, but are American made. I have fun one my bike and it is fast enogh to get out of bad situations. A real rider knows that Harleys are junk? No, a real rider wouldn't put themselves in a situation that they have to have power to go over 110 or need 7500 rpm. Got 9k though.
And all for 12000. It will be worth 3000 in three years.
Your not open-minded like you say, so like ****** said--Go play in traffic.
And just so you know, December issue of cycle world compared the Vmax to your Vrod, and guess what, the max out performed everything from comfort to acceleration, ride and handling! Now this Yamaha was released in 1984 as an 85' model and hasn't changed but a little in over 20 years and it still kicks the Vrod??? How can that be??
Go to NADA.com and look at what the average Harley depreciates please. I did, I looked at a year old model, and saw it took a $7G dump in one year!! That is almost what a Vmax costs new! An import is much cheaper, with more to offer, and if it looses a couple G's at best in a few years, big deal to having almost twice the investment, half the power and much more $ lossed when selling.
Please go to cycle trader.com, and see how many are for sale, along with any local newspaper, MY GOD! Vrods take a huge loss, worth maybe half or less in a couple years.
Talking to many Harley riders, the Vrod is very much hated by the Harley community. I don't know why it would be, because its finally an attempt to make a modern chassis, it just fails because of crank design. I wish Porshe would have been able to design and manufacture a Vtwin, rather then just manufacture something Harley designed.
I have friends that have Buells, and now after they rode the Hayabusa, the Buells are for sale. He has a White lightning with over $10 Gs in the engine, and can't even get $6500 for the whole bike.
I know many people that have dumped huge money in their Harleys, to try in vain to get an equal power to what most big bore cruisers, such as a Goldwing or M109, or VTX, Warrior, Vulcan already have.
Don't fool yourself with resale, as this is no longer a viable argument. Sorry to burst your bubble.
I came here to research my next purchase, I am already getting insulted if I knock Harleys. I am trying to learn about them, and compare them legitimatly to other bikes. Please don't insult me by telling me, "If you have to explain it then I just won't understand". That is a copout. These are just machines, nothing more, and to buy a machine to make friends seems strange at best as well. I don't need to buy something to impress others, I just want the most I can get for the money spent. Sorry if I don't fall into the cult way of thinking.
It is pure fact that HDs hold their resale. A 99 Springer that is being sold for over $15k (which is all over the cycle trader mag)? It did not cost that new. And every metric bike depreciates at least 50% in the first 3 years. Even the 'other' American bike Victory depreciates like that. I can wait 1 year and the 18k Kingpin will be below 14k used. If I would have left it stock, I could have sold my 2006 StreetBob for at least the same price. Your metrics, unless they are in the sub-$7k bra
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RE: Harley being fast?
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You are such a freakin' liar!!!!!!!!!! First you state you own a V-MAX, then you state that you DID own a V-MAX and made $2000 on it....(crock of sh*t) now you say you own a Hayabusa...and yesterday you drove a M109....and soon you'll get the 14....
YOU ARE ONE F*CKED UP PANSY!!!!!!!!!
You are such a freakin' liar!!!!!!!!!! First you state you own a V-MAX, then you state that you DID own a V-MAX and made $2000 on it....(crock of sh*t) now you say you own a Hayabusa...and yesterday you drove a M109....and soon you'll get the 14....
YOU ARE ONE F*CKED UP PANSY!!!!!!!!!
As two summers ago, out in Denver, a retired guy pulled his GS1100 out of his garage, and proceeded to kick the multi million dollar pro fuel Vrods *** in the quarter, look it up if you don't believe me.
I'm tired of this internet squabble with monkey intelligence.
"if you don't ride a harley, your not riding a real bike" crap. What a load of cow dung! I ride anything, and I mean anything, but what holds me back from harley, is the assosiation of dumb asses. I do not want anyone thinking I am a nut case, as I pull up riding a machine that sounds like a big fart maker, like loud pipe harleys mostly do. I gave you people a chance to be decent, and wanted to have intelligent conversations, but I see that isn't possible. I am not buying a cruiser to be the fastest, I have fast, I have a Busa!
I do want the most for the Money, is that so hard to understand?? Show me what I get for the Money!! Come on, think hard!
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RE: Harley being fast?
I kept it 13 years, and racked up 50K miles
falconA
god damn dude, did you ride it more than to hooters bike night? that aint 5k a year you friggin poser! 50k and a HD is just gettin broke in! i'm laid up from a crash right now, but if you want to set it up i got a 883 that we can see if ya can keep up with, no it aint stock, yes i ride it over 1k a month. if ya think the hate and discontent is bad here and no where else go to the honda vtx owners forum. they have a page simply for Harley bashing. they are so into it they have a page just for it! it's named, now get this "Harley vs Honda"! they even listed Harley first in the title! hahahahaha hawhawhawhaw get a life!
falconA
god damn dude, did you ride it more than to hooters bike night? that aint 5k a year you friggin poser! 50k and a HD is just gettin broke in! i'm laid up from a crash right now, but if you want to set it up i got a 883 that we can see if ya can keep up with, no it aint stock, yes i ride it over 1k a month. if ya think the hate and discontent is bad here and no where else go to the honda vtx owners forum. they have a page simply for Harley bashing. they are so into it they have a page just for it! it's named, now get this "Harley vs Honda"! they even listed Harley first in the title! hahahahaha hawhawhawhaw get a life!