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Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Maybe if the MoCo started selling pacifiers and diapers, they would able to satisfy some of the whiners.
My thought also...
 
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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What Sonny Barger does or doesn't do is no interest to me. He's merely a convict waiting to be where he belongs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he is also an indirect pivitol figure in both harley styling and marketing.
 
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NSCoyote
he is also an indirect pivitol figure in both harley styling and marketing.
ummmm, maybe for you but definitely not for me
 
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by *NIGHT TRAIN*
Yep...reminds me of the old saying about why the most valued man in the business is the old timer...when the new kids on the block come up with great new ideas, he can explain to them why that didn't work the FIRST time around...
So true Train... did that Hundreds of times with the youngsters before retiring.
Every once in a while though, they do come up something good.
 
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by NSCoyote
he is also an indirect pivitol figure in both harley styling and marketing.
Uh last I heard he is riding a Victory.
 
Old Mar 12, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnnyiroc
Uh last I heard he is riding a Victory.
yes he is on a victory or for the most part i dotn blame him LOL
but i was speaking more fo a historical sense LOL back when sonny was "comming up" in the MC world. alot of the bikers during that time looked to him and the lifestyle he and many others lived at the time as a sort of inspiration for "fashionable accesories" that are common place on bikes now, hence the "indirectly" comment also sonny and the whole of the outlaw culture is what drew alot of guys into the harley world and as a result harley's markettign dept. has constintly used the weekend warrior/billy badass image to sell their products * bikes, accesories, clothing etc* to the professional going through that mid life crisis thingy and do so successfully.

as far as i know sonny hates the MoCo with a passion and i am pretty sure he didnt directly have any involvment in the MoCo but like every good merketing professional knows you design your marketting plan based on what the general populace will buy, and the general populace buys "cool" or "rebelious"
 
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Harley needs to wise up quick ! They are in a declining economy, with a declining market and a declining customer base. Someone better reach in that hat and pull a rabbit out fast.

1. Cut Production
2. Cultivate International Sales
3. Educate Dealers in good ol fashion business practices.
4. Those that won't learn, drop em.
5. Did I mention cut production ?
6. Go back to fewer models and let the customer produce his own style bike by
having complete interchangability( just like the old days, they only had 2 models
and no two customers bikes looked the same).
It's silly having 5 or 6 different models all with the same motor and transmission. Make it all interchangable and let the customer rolll his own. Hell, if the customer wants a dresser with a bobbed fender, let them have it! Quit trying to build factory "customs" that all look just alike ! ahem...... JMHO
 

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