you for that!!
Bikers beat down cager
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: Republic of Texas
Reading these post just reminds me of why I like my dogs more then people. Front glass broke with a fist--back glass broke with a object. Couple flees to their home---notice flees. This wasn't a beat down. Talk about a bunch of forum members overreacting. Nothing but a case of road rage that ended better then it could have.
Road Master
Joined: Jan 2009
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From: East Central Mississippi
Has no one here ever used their left arm to signal a turn.
The responses I've read on here so far, lead me to believe , most
don't have a clue what it means when the driver in the vehicle ahead of
you extends his left arm out the window.
The responses I've read on here so far, lead me to believe , most
don't have a clue what it means when the driver in the vehicle ahead of
you extends his left arm out the window.
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2009
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From: Ellensburg, WA
I was thinking the same thing about the arm out the window. Still a legal signal for a turn. Also, one of the reports states double yellow line. Not legal for either one to cross (making a left or passing).
Road Master
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How do you know he wasn't using his left arm to give the finger? Or maybe he tried to grab a biker as he rode by. Admittedly a bit unlikely, but I've seen worse, and you don't know. You weren't there.
I don't understand all the "cheerleading" for a cager who mowed down a bike and walked away with nothing but a broken arm and a couple of smashed windows. What forum is this, anyway?
Road Captain
Joined: May 2007
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From: eastern NC
Its illegal to pass when a solid yellow line is in your lane, a double means no passing from either direction.
The guy turning left may have been sigaling his turn with his arm, which is legal, but he is also supposed to make sure that there isnt anyone passing him, even though there is a solid yellow line.
So, in theroy, he should receive a citation for a save movement violation.
The biker should receive a citation for a illegal passing.
Both the car driver and the biker were in the wrong.
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From: Hudson Valley, NY
the meathead bikers passed him on the left across a double yellow, i.e. their fault completely. and they rough the guy up and f*ck his car up with a 15-1 advantage? sorry completely wrong (as someone who like 99.9% of the folks here is both a biker and a "cager").
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: Forest Hill, Md
well you know.. when the car is only worth $200.00 and the windshield cost $225.00 it's pretty much totaled.
one sided story, sensationalizing journalism, and some pissed off bikers from Maryland.
might be this gang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KJHsIZEajQ
one sided story, sensationalizing journalism, and some pissed off bikers from Maryland.
might be this gang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KJHsIZEajQ
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Road Master
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chances are you're a cager too, you ride your cage to work, or with the family, and you have driven and eaten tacos, and talked on the phone, and tailgated, more than likely driven drunk before.
the meathead bikers passed him on the left across a double yellow, i.e. their fault completely. and they rough the guy up and f*ck his car up with a 15-1 advantage? sorry completely wrong (as someone who like 99.9% of the folks here is both a biker and a "cager").
the meathead bikers passed him on the left across a double yellow, i.e. their fault completely. and they rough the guy up and f*ck his car up with a 15-1 advantage? sorry completely wrong (as someone who like 99.9% of the folks here is both a biker and a "cager").
Actually, I ride my bike to work most days. But yes, of course, I drive my car often. Never drunk, and I never talk on the phone while driving. Maybe you do, that's your thing, but I don't.
As far as your other comment, I don't know about all states, but in many states it is not "illegal" to pass on a double yellow line unless there is a sign that says no passing on the double yellow line. I won a court case on that basis once -- even the judge didn't know the rule until I pointed out the specific statute.
But again, even if the biker was wrong, the cager signalled, the biker was passing when he wasn't supposed to...even if all that...you still don't know what happened out there and what precipitated the "beat down".
One thing I have learned in 20 years of practicing law is, there's always another side to the story. And no matter how compelling one side may be, and how unlikely it may be that the other side could be more compelling...there are always going to be situations that end up surprising you. So you learn not to make too many assumptions. Not to be quite so quick to judge. All I'm saying is, you weren't there, you didn't see it, why side with the cager automatically?
Actually, now that I think about, I may have to revise my "vote" in the "brotherhood thread"....
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From: Hudson Valley, NY
i don't side with the "cager" i side against the a**holes using a 15-1 advantage to intimidate and f*ck a dudes care up. i like the underdog and hate bullies.
had it been 15 "cagers" that roughed up a biker and f*cked his bike up i would side with the biker. see the pattern? i'm siding with the dude who was wronged, not automatically siding with the group of a**holes because they happen to ride on two wheels.
had it been 15 "cagers" that roughed up a biker and f*cked his bike up i would side with the biker. see the pattern? i'm siding with the dude who was wronged, not automatically siding with the group of a**holes because they happen to ride on two wheels.