I wonder how bad this will be on the Harley?

The Environmental Protection Agency today waived a limitation on selling fuel that is more than 10 percent ethanol for model-year 2007 and newer cars and light trucks.
The waiver applies to fuel that contains as much as 15 percent ethanol, known as E15. The decision excludes marine engines and other non-road engines, such as those on snowmobiles, lawn and garden equipment, and other small gasoline-powered engines.
Marine industry groups, including the National Marine Manufacturers Association, the Marine Retailers Association of America and BoatU.S., have vigorously opposed E15.
The NMMA is concerned that the EPA does not plan to take significant steps to address anticipated problems that involve consumer confusion and the risk of misfueling. The EPA also will not take action to ensure that compatible fuels remain available for the nation's 13 million registered boat owners or the hundreds of millions of owners of gasoline-powered equipment, the association said after the EPA's decision.
"We are extremely disappointed that EPA is allowing this fuel to enter the market without the appropriate scientific data or consumer and environmental safeguards," NMMA president Thom Dammrich said in a statement. "This decision not only adversely impacts marine manufacturers, but creates a significant risk of misfueling for the nation's 66 million boaters, who will be left 'holding the bag' for performance issues and expensive repairs.
"We are astonished that EPA has decided to move forward with a fuel that will increase air pollution and damage hundreds of millions of existing products," he added.
The EPA says it has done vigorous testing to ensure that E15 is safe for cars from model-year 2007 and later and the agency reiterated in a press conference that it was holding off a decision on older-model cars. Also, Gina McCarthy, EPA's assistant administrator for air and radiation, stressed that marine engines and other smaller engines were not included in the waiver.
Also, she said, the waiver is not a mandate to force the use of E15.
"EPA is not requiring the use of E15. This decision is not a mandate," she said. "This decision is about allowing the use of E15."
"Thorough testing has now shown that E15 does not harm emissions-control equipment in newer cars and light trucks," EPA administrator Lisa P. Jackson said in a statement. "Wherever sound science and the law support steps to allow more home-grown fuels in America's vehicles, this administration takes those steps."
A decision on the use of E15 in model-year 2001 to 2006 vehicles will be made after the EPA receives the results of additional testing that is expected to be completed in November.
However, no waiver will be granted this year for E15 use in model-year 2000 and older cars and light trucks - or in any motorcycles, heavy-duty vehicles or non-road engines - because there are no test data to support such a waiver.
Additionally, steps are being taken to help consumers easily identify the correct fuel for their vehicles and equipment. The EPA is proposing E15 pump-labeling requirements, including a requirement that the fuel industry specify the ethanol content of gasoline sold to retailers.
An E15 petition was submitted in March 2009 to EPA by Growth Energy and 54 ethanol manufacturers. In April 2009, EPA sought public comment on the petition and received about 78,000 comments.
The petition was submitted under a Clean Air Act provision that allows the EPA to waive the act's prohibition against the sale of a significantly altered fuel if the petitioner shows that the new fuel will not cause or contribute to the failure of the engine parts that ensure compliance with the act's emissions limits.

 

I just read an article and I got the impression that they were going to use separate pumps for cars newer than 2007. they were going to set up pumps for older vehicles and small engines uses. What a mess that should be. Few are actually in favor of this move.

 

I will wait and see how this work out. I remember all the whining and crying when they removed lead. There were some problems but it worked out. Engines now run longer and stay cleaner internally and I attribute that to less sulfur and no lead.

 

I also remember all the dire warnings of doom and disaster that were supposed to befall us when leaded gas disappeared. Somehow, we seem to have survived.

 

My truck runs on E85 (when the math is right anyway) and while filling up I had a women ask me between gas, diesel and E85 pump which one she should use, "is that one gas?" the lady said, "it is gas for my truck not for your car though" "I am confused" she said. It was funny. Lets add an E15 pump in too.

 

I calibrated Ethanol flex fuel vehicles. I would imagine many cars will set check engine lights.( some diagnostics are calibrated very close, and are sensitive to leaner A/F ratios) The other thing that wasn't adressed in the press release is the FACT that a vehicles fuel ECONOMY will go DOWN! And with every increase in Ethanol percentage, adverse affects are increased. (ie. water in fuel, and it's affect on wear.) Also as ambient temperatures drop, cold starting issues increase with every increase in Ethanol content. As does cold engine driveablity!

 

Glad I have an ethanol-free gas station close to the house.

 

It'll be bad for all of our more "high performance" engines. I dread thinking what it's going to do to the Porsches, not to mention another 10-15% drop in fuel mleage meaning once again I'll be paying more for less.

 

It depends on who controls the next Congress. I won't be political and suggest which way would prevent it from happening. But most off you should get out and vote. This is not the election to stay home and not vote.

 

Funny you mention the drop in gas mileage. A few of my buddies that ride and myself have noticed a 10-20% drop in fuel economy this summer here in the DFW Metroplex. Is E15 here already?