eBay "DEALS"
Tourer
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From: Hartsburg MO
RE: eBay "DEALS"
I betting that most of the bikes in your signature pics have been "sold" on ebay. It's a very common scam, and they'll use whatever nice photos they can find on the net. Keep an eye out, you never know where your ride will turn up. 
Cruiser
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RE: eBay "DEALS"
I will agree with you all that scams definatley exist on Ebay. However, they have sold over two million vehicles, and most of these are in fact legitimate and yes many of the deals have been too good to be true, but they are. I know, I have actually found several great deals.
Here are some hints...
Only buy from confirmed sellers with ratings better than 90%, and histories that go back more than a few weeks.
Spend a lot of time communicating with them before you try to make the deal.
Buy the vehicle or put the deposit on a credit card.
Ebay has a fraud protection guarantee on vehicles...
http://pages.motors.ebay.com/service...rotection.html
I think this might be the one you mentioned...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harle...spagenameZWDVW
If it is, I think this guy is a wholesaler, here is his other auctions...
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZouawhimsy
The guy currently has six bikes up for auction, and he has 132 feedback and his history goes all the way back to 2001.
It is very good to warn people about scams, but we don't have to be frightened. The truth of the matter is that more people are scammed everyday in the average large city by classified ads, than have ever been scammed on Ebay. People buy stolen bikes and cars or those with bad titles etc all the time on the street and never get their money back because there is no recourse. At least with Ebay you have a fighting chance.
Here are some hints...
Only buy from confirmed sellers with ratings better than 90%, and histories that go back more than a few weeks.
Spend a lot of time communicating with them before you try to make the deal.
Buy the vehicle or put the deposit on a credit card.
Ebay has a fraud protection guarantee on vehicles...
http://pages.motors.ebay.com/service...rotection.html
I think this might be the one you mentioned...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harle...spagenameZWDVW
If it is, I think this guy is a wholesaler, here is his other auctions...
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZouawhimsy
The guy currently has six bikes up for auction, and he has 132 feedback and his history goes all the way back to 2001.
It is very good to warn people about scams, but we don't have to be frightened. The truth of the matter is that more people are scammed everyday in the average large city by classified ads, than have ever been scammed on Ebay. People buy stolen bikes and cars or those with bad titles etc all the time on the street and never get their money back because there is no recourse. At least with Ebay you have a fighting chance.
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2006
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From: Southern California High Desert, here and there....
RE: eBay "DEALS"
ORIGINAL: Harry Manback
If it is, I think this guy is a wholesaler, here is his other auctions...
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZouawhimsy
The guy currently has six bikes up for auction, and he has 132 feedback and his history goes all the way back to 2001.
If it is, I think this guy is a wholesaler, here is his other auctions...
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZouawhimsy
The guy currently has six bikes up for auction, and he has 132 feedback and his history goes all the way back to 2001.
Cruiser
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RE: eBay "DEALS"
Yeah, could be but you can't build a fake history on Ebay. It has taken me five years to get my seller rating, and it only takes one bad transaction to lose it. Behind the scenes on Ebay they have a ton of information to verify you and stop you from doing business if you sam people.. Most scams on Ebay right now involve smaller items and sellers with zero ratings.
Out of the 72 vehicle purchase transactions I have completed on Ebay exactly NONE have been a scam.
I have also sold 88 vehicles on Ebay, and NONE of them have been a scam.
The fact of the matter is that I can buy a vehicle at auction for well below wholesale, and then turn around and make a grand or two quickly by selling it on Ebay for a low reserve. I don't have to worry about in state sales tax, or dealers fees etc, so I can move them quick with low overhead. The fact is that it is quicker and cheaper to sell to someone on Ebay than anywhere else, plus I don't have to have an office or a bunch of strangers coming to my house. I have found that most of the guys I have dealt with on Ebay are the same.
Out of the 72 vehicle purchase transactions I have completed on Ebay exactly NONE have been a scam.
I have also sold 88 vehicles on Ebay, and NONE of them have been a scam.
The fact of the matter is that I can buy a vehicle at auction for well below wholesale, and then turn around and make a grand or two quickly by selling it on Ebay for a low reserve. I don't have to worry about in state sales tax, or dealers fees etc, so I can move them quick with low overhead. The fact is that it is quicker and cheaper to sell to someone on Ebay than anywhere else, plus I don't have to have an office or a bunch of strangers coming to my house. I have found that most of the guys I have dealt with on Ebay are the same.
ORIGINAL: Eyespy
Yeah, that's what this scam artist would like you think....TOTAL SCAM
ORIGINAL: Harry Manback
If it is, I think this guy is a wholesaler, here is his other auctions...
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZouawhimsy
The guy currently has six bikes up for auction, and he has 132 feedback and his history goes all the way back to 2001.
If it is, I think this guy is a wholesaler, here is his other auctions...
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZouawhimsy
The guy currently has six bikes up for auction, and he has 132 feedback and his history goes all the way back to 2001.
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,423
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From: Southern California High Desert, here and there....
RE: eBay "DEALS"
ORIGINAL: Harry Manback
Yeah, could be but you can't build a fake history on Ebay. It has taken me five years to get my seller rating, and it only takes one bad transaction to lose it. Behind the scenes on Ebay they have a ton of information to verify you and stop you from doing business if you sam people.. Most scams on Ebay right now involve smaller items and sellers with zero ratings.
Out of the 72 vehicle purchase transactions I have completed on Ebay exactly NONE have been a scam.
I have also sold 88 vehicles on Ebay, and NONE of them have been a scam.
The fact of the matter is that I can buy a vehicle at auction for well below wholesale, and then turn around and make a grand or two quickly by selling it on Ebay for a low reserve. I don't have to worry about in state sales tax, or dealers fees etc, so I can move them quick with low overhead. The fact is that it is quicker and cheaper to sell to someone on Ebay than anywhere else, plus I don't have to have an office or a bunch of strangers coming to my house. I have found that most of the guys I have dealt with on Ebay are the same.
Yeah, could be but you can't build a fake history on Ebay. It has taken me five years to get my seller rating, and it only takes one bad transaction to lose it. Behind the scenes on Ebay they have a ton of information to verify you and stop you from doing business if you sam people.. Most scams on Ebay right now involve smaller items and sellers with zero ratings.
Out of the 72 vehicle purchase transactions I have completed on Ebay exactly NONE have been a scam.
I have also sold 88 vehicles on Ebay, and NONE of them have been a scam.
The fact of the matter is that I can buy a vehicle at auction for well below wholesale, and then turn around and make a grand or two quickly by selling it on Ebay for a low reserve. I don't have to worry about in state sales tax, or dealers fees etc, so I can move them quick with low overhead. The fact is that it is quicker and cheaper to sell to someone on Ebay than anywhere else, plus I don't have to have an office or a bunch of strangers coming to my house. I have found that most of the guys I have dealt with on Ebay are the same.
ORIGINAL: Eyespy
Yeah, that's what this scam artist would like you think....TOTAL SCAM
ORIGINAL: Harry Manback
If it is, I think this guy is a wholesaler, here is his other auctions...
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZouawhimsy
The guy currently has six bikes up for auction, and he has 132 feedback and his history goes all the way back to 2001.
If it is, I think this guy is a wholesaler, here is his other auctions...
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZouawhimsy
The guy currently has six bikes up for auction, and he has 132 feedback and his history goes all the way back to 2001.
Cruiser
Joined: Jun 2006
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RE: eBay "DEALS"
I think I will know for sure here real soon. I just sent the guy an email, and I will be talking to him as soon as he contacts me. I will more than likely attempt to buy the bike. Then I will probably turn around and list it on Ebay for a price much closer to retail. I find that I can buy them back east, and then sell them from Albuquerque to west coast folks for a lot more. If it is a scam, then it will be my first and then I will file a claim to be reimbursed from Ebay's fraud protection. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
I only wanted to point out that not everything on Ebay is a scam, and that with a little knowledge and research one can easily weed the scammers out. I don't know if this guy is a scammer or not, neither does anyone else. A lot of clues tell me that it is probably not, this is from my experience. After I talk to the guy, and find out what his deal is I may find that he his a flake, or I may find that he is not. I just don't like passing up an opportunity until I know wether or not it is okay.
I only wanted to point out that not everything on Ebay is a scam, and that with a little knowledge and research one can easily weed the scammers out. I don't know if this guy is a scammer or not, neither does anyone else. A lot of clues tell me that it is probably not, this is from my experience. After I talk to the guy, and find out what his deal is I may find that he his a flake, or I may find that he is not. I just don't like passing up an opportunity until I know wether or not it is okay.
ORIGINAL: Eyespy
I'm not saying your 72 transactions were scams. I am saying this one is, as are the others from this same seller.
I'm not saying your 72 transactions were scams. I am saying this one is, as are the others from this same seller.
Tourer
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Glencoe, MN
RE: eBay "DEALS"
I have been around E-bay for over five years and have a feedback of 163 and 100% positive. It al boils down to a little common knowledge. There is some deals on E-bay, but everyone of us know that a 2004 Harley such as this one is worth way more than 4500.00. I have seen these bike totally burnt to a crisp, and go for 2000.00. Completly junk they go for more......check it out....
www.crashtoys.com
One last thing.......Feedback does not mean anything if you only buy $1.00 and $2.00 items and then get 70 or 80 feedback, and then sell something that is a scam like this. One thing that wipes a lot of these scams away is to ask for a phone number so you can call them. Not 100% effective, but you can somtimes get a "feel" for the person. Always deal through E-bay. Look at this guys question at the end of the auction. Right away he wants you to email him at such and such address. This way you avoid having ebay involved.
www.crashtoys.com
One last thing.......Feedback does not mean anything if you only buy $1.00 and $2.00 items and then get 70 or 80 feedback, and then sell something that is a scam like this. One thing that wipes a lot of these scams away is to ask for a phone number so you can call them. Not 100% effective, but you can somtimes get a "feel" for the person. Always deal through E-bay. Look at this guys question at the end of the auction. Right away he wants you to email him at such and such address. This way you avoid having ebay involved.
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Cruiser
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RE: eBay "DEALS"
ORIGINAL: ethal68
I have been around E-bay for over five years and have a feedback of 163 and 100% positive. It al boils down to a little common knowledge. There is some deals on E-bay, but everyone of us know that a 2004 Harley such as this one is worth way more than 4500.00. I have seen these bike totally burnt to a crisp, and go for 2000.00. Completly junk they go for more......check it out....
www.crashtoys.com
One last thing.......Feedback does not mean anything if you only buy $1.00 and $2.00 items and then get 70 or 80 feedback, and then sell something that is a scam like this. One thing that wipes a lot of these scams away is to ask for a phone number so you can call them. Not 100% effective, but you can somtimes get a "feel" for the person. Always deal through E-bay. Look at this guys question at the end of the auction. Right away he wants you to email him at such and such address. This way you avoid having ebay involved.
I have been around E-bay for over five years and have a feedback of 163 and 100% positive. It al boils down to a little common knowledge. There is some deals on E-bay, but everyone of us know that a 2004 Harley such as this one is worth way more than 4500.00. I have seen these bike totally burnt to a crisp, and go for 2000.00. Completly junk they go for more......check it out....
www.crashtoys.com
One last thing.......Feedback does not mean anything if you only buy $1.00 and $2.00 items and then get 70 or 80 feedback, and then sell something that is a scam like this. One thing that wipes a lot of these scams away is to ask for a phone number so you can call them. Not 100% effective, but you can somtimes get a "feel" for the person. Always deal through E-bay. Look at this guys question at the end of the auction. Right away he wants you to email him at such and such address. This way you avoid having ebay involved.
I agree with you 100%, I for one will not deal with anyone I cannot speak with, or that I cannot verify their busines, checking account etc. I also have them send me a copy of the title, and then I do a VIN search, and call the DMV in whatever state it is registered in before I commit. I think this is what I am really trying to get across. Anyone can be scammed anywhere at any time. You have to be smart enough to find out. I just don't like it when it is immediatley identified as a scam, without knowing for sure. Just like I wouldn't want someone to say that it definatley is not a scam, without knowing either.
Banned
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From: Dover, Oh
RE: eBay "DEALS"
This Fatboy is completely a scam. Yes they have positive feedback but NONE of it was theres. They find someone who has not bought or sold in the last three months and hack the account. Then they have great feedback with history on ebay.
I have been on Ebay for 6 years and have over 22000 feedback. over 99% positive.
I have been on Ebay for 6 years and have over 22000 feedback. over 99% positive.