eBay "DEALS"
Road Warrior
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RE: eBay "DEALS"
ORIGINAL: Harry Manback
I think I will know for sure here real soon. I just sent the guy an email, and I will be talking to him as soon as he contacts me. I will more than likely attempt to buy the bike. Then I will probably turn around and list it on Ebay for a price much closer to retail. I find that I can buy them back east, and then sell them from Albuquerque to west coast folks for a lot more. If it is a scam, then it will be my first and then I will file a claim to be reimbursed from Ebay's fraud protection. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
I only wanted to point out that not everything on Ebay is a scam, and that with a little knowledge and research one can easily weed the scammers out. I don't know if this guy is a scammer or not, neither does anyone else. A lot of clues tell me that it is probably not, this is from my experience. After I talk to the guy, and find out what his deal is I may find that he his a flake, or I may find that he is not. I just don't like passing up an opportunity until I know wether or not it is okay.
I think I will know for sure here real soon. I just sent the guy an email, and I will be talking to him as soon as he contacts me. I will more than likely attempt to buy the bike. Then I will probably turn around and list it on Ebay for a price much closer to retail. I find that I can buy them back east, and then sell them from Albuquerque to west coast folks for a lot more. If it is a scam, then it will be my first and then I will file a claim to be reimbursed from Ebay's fraud protection. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
I only wanted to point out that not everything on Ebay is a scam, and that with a little knowledge and research one can easily weed the scammers out. I don't know if this guy is a scammer or not, neither does anyone else. A lot of clues tell me that it is probably not, this is from my experience. After I talk to the guy, and find out what his deal is I may find that he his a flake, or I may find that he is not. I just don't like passing up an opportunity until I know wether or not it is okay.
ORIGINAL: Eyespy
I'm not saying your 72 transactions were scams. I am saying this one is, as are the others from this same seller.
I'm not saying your 72 transactions were scams. I am saying this one is, as are the others from this same seller.
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RE: eBay "DEALS"
I had something similar happen to me, I was shopping for a bike and made a $1000 bid on a brand new sporty, granted that was a low one and i knew i wouldn't get it. anyhow, the listing ended and the bike was sold for much more. A few days later I get an email from the seller saying that he would give me a second chance offer. I looked up the bid history and there were people that bid higher than I did. I contacted him with my questions and he said that i was the first one to respond, and all he wanted was my name, address and ebay login, which made no sense to me because how did he contact me. Another thing was that the bike was local, when I contacted him the bike suddenly moved across the country. I reported him to ebay. Now the best part, He tried it again, on the same bike with the same generic email, I emailed him asking how many bikes did he have? Another thing that I hate is when sellers pretend to be buyers to drive up the price, its so obvious, I'd rather go somewhere else.
Cruiser
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If you will notice, this item is now gone from Ebay...
Here is my approach, I tried contacting the seller, then I made contact with four of the people who did business with this seller in the past. I got the sellers contact information from one of these people, contacted the seller directly and lo and behold the seller was not actually selling motorcycles. So it is true, this in fact was a scam, the account had been hijacked, and the real seller who owned the account had no idea.
My original point stands, great deals are available on Ebay, even those that are way too good to be true, but one has to be just as dilligent or even more so in identifying the seller before handing over the money.
This is what one gets when they drink and Ebay....
Here is my approach, I tried contacting the seller, then I made contact with four of the people who did business with this seller in the past. I got the sellers contact information from one of these people, contacted the seller directly and lo and behold the seller was not actually selling motorcycles. So it is true, this in fact was a scam, the account had been hijacked, and the real seller who owned the account had no idea.
My original point stands, great deals are available on Ebay, even those that are way too good to be true, but one has to be just as dilligent or even more so in identifying the seller before handing over the money.
This is what one gets when they drink and Ebay....
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From: Tucson, Az
RE: eBay "DEALS"
I agree there are great deals on eBay. My Harley and Miata both came from eBay and I got a good deal on both and am completely satisified.
That doesn't mean you don't have to be careful!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That doesn't mean you don't have to be careful!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cruiser
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From: indianapolis
RE: eBay "DEALS"
Good point, it occurred to me also that it may have been a typo.
I don't deal on e-bay, but I think if one was trying to scam,
wouldn't it be better to set a price maybe 1 or 2 thousand less
than low retail rather than ridiculously low?
I don't deal on e-bay, but I think if one was trying to scam,
wouldn't it be better to set a price maybe 1 or 2 thousand less
than low retail rather than ridiculously low?
Road Warrior
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RE: eBay "DEALS"
It was not a typo. It was a scam from the outset. It was so transparent, so obvious, that the fact that there is any debate or consideration that it could have been anything else is astounding. This is your classic eBay motors scam, plain and simple. 
Road Warrior
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From: Southern California High Desert, here and there....
RE: eBay "DEALS"
BTW, this scam has been going on for years in the sportbike side, so maybe I am just more acustomed to seeing them and recognizing them instantaneously, but I would not have thought so prior to this thread. 
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RE: eBay "DEALS"
That was one benefit of the Hendersons listed on eBay - the VIN #s. There were so few that each was actually listed where sold and when (sometimes to whom). So when these bikes started popping up after the first year under and were about 8-9 grand, all we had to do was check the VIN X-ref, and if it listed someone we contacted them to see if they still had their ride, who they sold it to, etc. Caught many a scammer on that. The dumbest were the ones that took a prototype picture off the defunct website and posted as their ride's pic. Gave a VIN # that never existed (but was sequenced in a way to look OK)
Road Master
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RE: eBay "DEALS"
ORIGINAL: Eyespy
BTW, this scam has been going on for years in the sportbike side, so maybe I am just more acustomed to seeing them and recognizing them instantaneously, but I would not have thought so prior to this thread.
BTW, this scam has been going on for years in the sportbike side, so maybe I am just more acustomed to seeing them and recognizing them instantaneously, but I would not have thought so prior to this thread.
Inspect the bike in person before you bid
They are all hijacked accounts. Mostly russian mob or romania, etc. It goes like this. The scammer sends the legitimate ebayer a phishing message that looks like a real ebay screen asking for account confirmation due to suspicious activity or scam, the ebay responds with his account information, the hacker now has control over the ebay account and starts listing like a mad demon usually with a ridiculously low buy it now price or a story
If you haven't seen the bike in person before you put your money down on a high dollar item, or pay someone legit to inspect it on your behalf, imho, you are a fool.
So there is a way to build faulty ebay rating. Hack the account.
+1 on everything eyespy said.