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Old Dec 15, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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If anyone had taken the time to read the article, you would have seen that the AMA was against this law as unreasonable for a number of reasons. For one thing, a rider could modify an EPA exhaust by changing/removing the baffles and still meet the letter of the law. Changing the baffle defeats the whole purpose of the law which was to quiet down motorcycles with excessively loud exhausts.

The AMA has been proposing for some time a sound level test as this would allow aftermarket or non-EPA stamped systems to be legal. There is a standardized test method that they recommend. They even have written some draft language that could be used in a regulation if desired.

AMA's position has been for some time that loud pipes are eventually going to cause all motorcycle riders and dealers problems. That is why they have been trying to convince riders not to put excessively loud exhaust systems on street bikes.

Arnold Schwarzenegger was named because his signing this bill into law was chosen as the most significant action that very well could affect all motorcyclists across the country, not that his action was pro-motorcycle. They pointed out that California laws have been adapted by other government agencies and this law could well spread to other parts of the country.

Whether you want to believe it or not, motorcycle riding is a privilege, just like driving a car. That privilege can be taken away from you. There are a lot more non-riders that do not like the loud exhausts that some riders seem to think they have the "right" to use regardless of how it affects everyone else.
 
Old Dec 15, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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That "right" is gonna be exactly what kills us. Half the fun of a Harley is the sound, but the uberloud is for the uberstupid. Citizens have cameras, voting power, and the "badboy" image of bikers to motivate them to screw up a good thing.
At the least we could spare them the rattling windows.
 
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 12:30 AM
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...what was this thread about?
 
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Quadancer
That "right" is gonna be exactly what kills us. Half the fun of a Harley is the sound, but the uberloud is for the uberstupid. Citizens have cameras, voting power, and the "badboy" image of bikers to motivate them to screw up a good thing.
At the least we could spare them the rattling windows.
You are so right!
 
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by deanp1964
thanks, I'm checking them out right now.
wish we had ABATE in West Texas, but not yet.
Look up your local CoC & COIR. Best rights group in Texas, along with TMRA2. Legislative day is coming in late Jan and rights groups will be in Austin to meet and greet the law-makers.

http://coctx.org/
 
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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Moving to Florida in May due to job. Beautiful beaches and NO vehicle inspections or helmets required
 
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Morris9982
If anyone had taken the time to read the article, you would have seen that the AMA was against this law as unreasonable for a number of reasons. For one thing, a rider could modify an EPA exhaust by changing/removing the baffles and still meet the letter of the law. Changing the baffle defeats the whole purpose of the law which was to quiet down motorcycles with excessively loud exhausts.

The AMA has been proposing for some time a sound level test as this would allow aftermarket or non-EPA stamped systems to be legal. There is a standardized test method that they recommend. They even have written some draft language that could be used in a regulation if desired.

AMA's position has been for some time that loud pipes are eventually going to cause all motorcycle riders and dealers problems. That is why they have been trying to convince riders not to put excessively loud exhaust systems on street bikes.

Arnold Schwarzenegger was named because his signing this bill into law was chosen as the most significant action that very well could affect all motorcyclists across the country, not that his action was pro-motorcycle. They pointed out that California laws have been adapted by other government agencies and this law could well spread to other parts of the country.

Whether you want to believe it or not, motorcycle riding is a privilege, just like driving a car. That privilege can be taken away from you. There are a lot more non-riders that do not like the loud exhausts that some riders seem to think they have the "right" to use regardless of how it affects everyone else.
 
Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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I've visited Ca. quite a few time since my son moved to LA. Coming from the deep south it was quite a shock the first couple of times. Fun place to visit (great food), but like my son said " California is like a granola bar......full of nuts, fruits, and flakes". Funny but true.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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Abate
I'd have to agree! ABATE is FOR bikers and their rights IMHO.

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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:55 AM
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That old saw about California being full of fruits, nuts, and flakes is like me believing everyone in New Jersey is like Snookie and the Situation, eh, oh, wait a minute . . . Okay, forgetaboutit! LOL!

 



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