Leather questions
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From: Southern IL
this is stirring the pot but it's a sincere question. to those who buy the pakistani leather gear how do you reconcile the fact that pakistan is currently housing osama bin laden and mullah omar as well as the vast majority of al qaida leadership and providing them safe haven to attack our troops in afghanistan? also the pakistani ISI gives hundreds of millions in support to the taliban. so your $100 purchase of a paki leather is directly leading to the death of our soldiers in afghanistan. so buy that crap if you must but please don't sew any patriotic BS to it.
also if you buy that crap you need to stop complaining about jobs going overseas. people will buy a 20+K bike and deride those who buy "foreign bikes" but will toss on a jacket that financially supports essentially a country we're at war with because $300-$400 is too much for a jacket?
also if you buy that crap you need to stop complaining about jobs going overseas. people will buy a 20+K bike and deride those who buy "foreign bikes" but will toss on a jacket that financially supports essentially a country we're at war with because $300-$400 is too much for a jacket?
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From: Southern California
For a leather jacket it is really hard to beat Fox Creek. My Fox Creek Classic II Jacket has exceeded my expectations in quality, function and fit. It is however, in both cut and weight, a riding jacket. It is not a walk around posing as a biker jacket. I also have a First Gear Kilimanjaro Textile Jacket. For trips of more than a day I use the Kilimanjaro because it is more flexible temperature wise, packs down into a smaller package, and it is also waterproof. Neither Jacket is cheap by any means. B ut you will get what you pay for. As others have said; get a jacket that is just slightly larger than you need. This provides room for a Fleece or an Electric Vest/Jacket and without the Fleece allows for adequate air circulation under the Jacket when it gets warm and toasty in the summer.
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2008
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From: St.Louis, Mo area
+1 on the Fox Creek.
They have enough sizes to fit just about anyone. I'm 6'4", 300lbs, very hard to find a jacket that is a true riding jacket. The sleeves aren't half way up my arms when riding, (16"Apes), and not half way up my back. The first one my wife ordered for me didn't fit quite right, talked to them, sent it back and the second one was a perfect fit for me. Good people, excellent service, American made. They get my vote.
They have enough sizes to fit just about anyone. I'm 6'4", 300lbs, very hard to find a jacket that is a true riding jacket. The sleeves aren't half way up my arms when riding, (16"Apes), and not half way up my back. The first one my wife ordered for me didn't fit quite right, talked to them, sent it back and the second one was a perfect fit for me. Good people, excellent service, American made. They get my vote.
Tourer
Joined: Sep 2008
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From: Bedford Nova Scotia Canada
I have the FXRG jacket and love it.
Not saying it's 100% waterproof but it is good for our climate where sudden rainstorms or rainsqualls are common. I think all the "quality brands" are good.
My only suggestion is take a good look at the jackets that offer some waterproofing, (whether they are textile or leather) saves you from getting soaked on those days where you "wished you stopped in time to dig out the raingear.
I also wear FXRG pants on cold or rainy days. I don't get the assless and Ba**less chaps concept that keep my legs dry but get all the important parts wet and cold.
Not saying it's 100% waterproof but it is good for our climate where sudden rainstorms or rainsqualls are common. I think all the "quality brands" are good.
My only suggestion is take a good look at the jackets that offer some waterproofing, (whether they are textile or leather) saves you from getting soaked on those days where you "wished you stopped in time to dig out the raingear.
I also wear FXRG pants on cold or rainy days. I don't get the assless and Ba**less chaps concept that keep my legs dry but get all the important parts wet and cold.
Road Master
Joined: Oct 2010
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From: NH
Contrary to the misinformed poster above, some of the cheapest leather is made (finished) here in the US. Years ago, the tree-huggers forced US-based leather companies to use the "spray" method to dye their leathers and that's the least preferred method with respect to quality and longevity for leather garments.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Speaking of misinformed....that's some of the biggest pile of crap I've read on here.
Plain and simple, you get what you pay for and good quality leather garments aren't cheap. Sizing is all over the board too so try them on if you can.
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2007
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I have been wanting a Langlitz for awhile. Lately however I have been looking at Legendary Leather's Black Stallion. It is horsehide which is supposedly water resistant. Still pricey but not as much as a Langlitz. If price is no object Lost World Leather makes a reproduction Bucco that is a work of art. For now my good old Bates does the job. In the summer I use a leather shirt. For gloves I ALWAYS wear full fingered. I work in an ER and have seen many fingernails ground//snapped off. I usually leather pants for longer rides.
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From: Directly above the center of the Earth
Leather-Up and Jafrum are crap. They get their jackets from the same maker in Pakistan. That maker uses *the* cheapest hardware and they don't drum dye their leather worth a damn.
I know this because I have a Pistol Pete model I got from Jafrum Dec, 3, 2008. The long zipper on the map pocket (the long zipper next to the main jacket zipper) just broke on me a week ago. Damn thing just fell apart as I zipped it up.
Know how many times I've actually *used* that particular zipper? Less than 10 times. I've always been able to get by with using the flap on that pocket.
My advice (and yes, I should have followed it back then, but I'd already put literally everything I had on the down-payment for the bike and had to wait two months after I got it home to save up just for the jacket!), save up and get a good jacket! DO NOT give your money away to foreign countries that make garbage. You *WILL* regret it not too far down the road!
One more thing about this jacket...two years now I've had it. I ride *all year long* because this bike is my only transportation. I mink oil twice a year. Doesn't matter...the drum dye on this leather is *STILL* coming off during every rain I ride in. There's places on the leather now that look bluish instead of black and the whole jacket is starting to fade slightly.
All I can say is, never again will I give my money to some foreigner who can't make a decent product.
I know this because I have a Pistol Pete model I got from Jafrum Dec, 3, 2008. The long zipper on the map pocket (the long zipper next to the main jacket zipper) just broke on me a week ago. Damn thing just fell apart as I zipped it up.
Know how many times I've actually *used* that particular zipper? Less than 10 times. I've always been able to get by with using the flap on that pocket.
My advice (and yes, I should have followed it back then, but I'd already put literally everything I had on the down-payment for the bike and had to wait two months after I got it home to save up just for the jacket!), save up and get a good jacket! DO NOT give your money away to foreign countries that make garbage. You *WILL* regret it not too far down the road!
One more thing about this jacket...two years now I've had it. I ride *all year long* because this bike is my only transportation. I mink oil twice a year. Doesn't matter...the drum dye on this leather is *STILL* coming off during every rain I ride in. There's places on the leather now that look bluish instead of black and the whole jacket is starting to fade slightly.
All I can say is, never again will I give my money to some foreigner who can't make a decent product.
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From: Kentucky
I noticed that one too - I was going to ignore it, but: +1. The whole thing was just silly.
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So check this out! Very productive 160 mile virgin run on my new Lo today, down to Canon City, then Pueblo and back home. I stopped to talk to some folks I know and one is a former biker. He wrecked a few years ago, hurting his head very bad and no longer rides. He is selling me his top of the line Harley Davidson Chaps for $100.00, plus his gauntlet and regular gloves, all like new.
Then I talk to a friend who knows Pueblo real well and asked him where to look for a jacket. He said a friend gave him one that is too small for him and he does not ride bikes. It fits me perfect so he gave it to me. Beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, eh?
Anyway, to look a gift horse in the mouth, anybody ever hear of "Intersect"? That is the name on the tag in the back of the jacket. The logo looks like two urban dudes with neck ties standing at parade rest, side by side. It's made in Canada. I googled it but found nothing. There is nothing else on the jacket that lets me know who made it. Looks like a regular Marlon Brando deal. Leather outside, lining is nylon and interlining is polyester. There is a "Live the Adventure" embossed on the back with an eagle. Is it a good, bad or mediocre jacket?
Thanks for any input.
Then I talk to a friend who knows Pueblo real well and asked him where to look for a jacket. He said a friend gave him one that is too small for him and he does not ride bikes. It fits me perfect so he gave it to me. Beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, eh?
Anyway, to look a gift horse in the mouth, anybody ever hear of "Intersect"? That is the name on the tag in the back of the jacket. The logo looks like two urban dudes with neck ties standing at parade rest, side by side. It's made in Canada. I googled it but found nothing. There is nothing else on the jacket that lets me know who made it. Looks like a regular Marlon Brando deal. Leather outside, lining is nylon and interlining is polyester. There is a "Live the Adventure" embossed on the back with an eagle. Is it a good, bad or mediocre jacket?
Thanks for any input.