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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WS6 Formula
What do you think about this 2006 Deluxe, it's just a little over $31,000? https://www.hdforums.com/forum/showt...eferrerid=9012.
Nice bike, but I think I've got a better chance of banging Jennifer Anniston and Julia Roberts in the same bed tonight, than the owner selling that bike for $31K. Same goes for that '90 Heritage Softail...very nice scoot, but the price is absurd. Some owners just need a reality check.

When a guy dumps all that money into aftermarket chrome and performance enhancements on any year/model bike, he can kiss that cash goodbye...he'll never fully recover it in a sale. If the guy actually wants to sell the bike, he will have to take a major bath on it...especially in this economy. If you're honestly thinking of sinking that kind of cash into your baby, I would suggest holding on to it, and enjoying it.
 
Old Feb 22, 2011 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by thealaskan
Interesting enough that no one here (the largest HD group on the internet by most counts) has offered anything yet !

Face it, the economy sucks. No one is looking for an investment in semi-precious gems. Personally, I don't think it adds more than maybe $500 to the going price.
OR???? perhaps this is NOT a specialist/collectors forum.

The OP needs to find an appraiser, who deals in "unusual" motorcycles. Accepting the "one of two" statement, it would be difficult to compare sales.

There was ONE sales comparison, but that sale took place in 1996. At that time, one could buy a bike, ride it for two years, and sell the bike for what was paid.

There's no magic formula, to determine a vehicle's worth. How rare the bike is, the condition the bike is in, and the general trend on the markey all play a part.

The seller really needs to consult an appraiser, if he wants to "know the current value on today's market".
 
Old Feb 22, 2011 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Then Came Bronson
No, really?



For some reason you can't seem to grasp the concept of a mass produced model with a (claimed) rare paint job versus a CVO limited production model with a rare paint job. A FXR3 with the blue paint job (for example) is an extremely rare limited production model, with an extremely rare paint job. Your buddies' FXRS-SP is a mass produced model, with a (claimed) rare paint job. Do you follow me here? There is a huge difference. Paint on a set of tins alone doesn't make it a rare bike, it makes it a mass produced bike with an interesting paint job.
Can you explain to me what comes on a fxr2, 3, or4 that didn't come on say a 1992 fxr? Other than the screamin' eagle paint job?

I understand there were less total units produced. But from reading the "FXR History" on one of these forums, I was under the impression they were the exact same bike as the earlier models with the parts for the bikes "mass produced" at the same time with the earlier models. They just threw the left over stuff together, stamped a vin # on it, & sold it as new.

Are you saying an original general lee from the dukes of hazzard show or even john schneider's personal one is worth less than an 06 charger? because even though there are less than 20 original general lee's (just a paint job, mind you) they made more chargers in 68-71 (the years used for the tv show's general lee) than they did in 06?
 
Old Feb 22, 2011 | 05:45 AM
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This may help, you may have already read but plainly states the improved differences for the FXR4 ... There is no question the General Lee is worth more than a standard model because of it's recognition being part of the Show, the same as the FXR that was Harley and the Marlboro Man Movie



http://www.hdfxr.dk/public/fxr/FXRHistory.aspx
 

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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JayStronghawk
This may help, you may have already read but plainly states the improved differences for the FXR4 ... There is no question the General Lee is worth more than a standard model because of it's recognition being part of the Show, the same as the FXR that was Harley and the Marlboro Man Movie



http://www.hdfxr.dk/public/fxr/FXRHistory.aspx

The OP bought the bike used.

Did he pay some sort of wild & crazy collector's price for it?

I rest my case.
 
Old Feb 22, 2011 | 08:24 AM
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"Fair Market Value" is what the insurance company will owe if the bike is totaled and you have full replacement cost coverage. The way to establish "Fair Market Value" is to get bids in writing from at least three dealers in your area detailing what your bike would sell for if it was on their floor today. Bluebook values are not relevant when it comes to fair market value. Get written bids from dealers and you may find your bike is worth more or likely less than you may think.

Just an opinion from an insurance adjuster.
 
Old Feb 22, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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I am guessing that asking for pictures was just too much.......Sure would like to have seen what this paint job that is so valuable looks like.
 
Old Feb 22, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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StevOn, Just a very brief history of the CVO FXR's. First off, they were the first bikes produced by what would later become the Custom Vehicle Operations. These FXR's were produced 5 years after the FXR went out of mass production. Each bike was built by hand by a team of two workers. The paint job on my FXR2 is nothing special by todays standards: just a 3 stage single color red paint with no striping and subtle "Harley Davidson" script on the tank in holographic paint. It has no one-off parts on it. It is equipped with most of the chrome options that HD offered in their parts catalog, like chrome swingarm, custom pegs, grips etc.

As for the OP's original question and discussions of rarity: If I had a 1990 FXR-SP I could take the tins to my local HD dealer and have him ship them off to the factory who would then paint them exactly as his bike is painted. Factory colors. Factory pattern. Factory decal. They offered that program for years and it's likely how his bike came to be painted the colors it is in the first place. Now, try sending those same tins off to HD and asking them to paint then in FXR2 Arresting Red. No chance. They will only repaint parts in that color if the dealer provides documentation that they came off a CVO '99 FXR2. Same with every CVO bike built since. There will never be more than 625 FXR2's in factory Arresting Red. HD does not even release the PPG paint code on the CVO bikes, but you can get the PPG code for every other factory color they have done.

Not to **** on the OP's parade, but he has a very nice 1990 FXR-SP painted in a rare combination. Nothing more. If he dropped it and dented the tank, he could have a factory replacement in a few months. Realistically, as a private seller he would likely get around $6500-$8000 for it in the spring or summer. I bought my FXR2 two years ago with 6000 miles on it for $8200 and I doubt his bike is much cleaner than mine.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6 Formula
Here's an example below of a manufacturer making only two of a particular model.

WOW!! I knew LT1 formula convertibles were rare, but damn! There were only 2 LS1 convertible formulas!

Honestly, I'd still rather have a firehawk (with superhawk hood).
 
Old Feb 22, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by omgtkk
StevOn, Just a very brief history of the CVO FXR's. First off, they were the first bikes produced by what would later become the Custom Vehicle Operations. These FXR's were produced 5 years after the FXR went out of mass production. Each bike was built by hand by a team of two workers. The paint job on my FXR2 is nothing special by todays standards: just a 3 stage single color red paint with no striping and subtle "Harley Davidson" script on the tank in holographic paint. It has no one-off parts on it. It is equipped with most of the chrome options that HD offered in their parts catalog, like chrome swingarm, custom pegs, grips etc.

As for the OP's original question and discussions of rarity: If I had a 1990 FXR-SP I could take the tins to my local HD dealer and have him ship them off to the factory who would then paint them exactly as his bike is painted. Factory colors. Factory pattern. Factory decal. They offered that program for years and it's likely how his bike came to be painted the colors it is in the first place. Now, try sending those same tins off to HD and asking them to paint then in FXR2 Arresting Red. No chance. They will only repaint parts in that color if the dealer provides documentation that they came off a CVO '99 FXR2. Same with every CVO bike built since. There will never be more than 625 FXR2's in factory Arresting Red. HD does not even release the PPG paint code on the CVO bikes, but you can get the PPG code for every other factory color they have done.

Not to **** on the OP's parade, but he has a very nice 1990 FXR-SP painted in a rare combination. Nothing more. If he dropped it and dented the tank, he could have a factory replacement in a few months. Realistically, as a private seller he would likely get around $6500-$8000 for it in the spring or summer. I bought my FXR2 two years ago with 6000 miles on it for $8200 and I doubt his bike is much cleaner than mine.
Thanks for explaining that a little better!
It was a hassle trying to order a screamin' eagle derby cover from the dealer lol.
 



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