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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Garandman

Yup, if you are a selfish *****, and have evidence that this actually made you safer [citation needed] that would be true.

Of course, if there is even one other open pipe bike nearby, no one can hear anything and everyone is less safe. So it's really all about you, you, you.

Funny thing: the guys who say that they have loud pipes because "Loud pipes save lives" never have on a good helmet, a good jacket, and I saw one last week who didn't even have on gloves! That something is often repeated doesn't make it right.
So I'm a selfish *****, I don't recall flaming you on this forum Garandman....you seem to be pretty full of yourself...
Did you read my entire post, or just take from it the parts you found the easiest to bash and insult.....?
Had you read my entire post you might have saw the part where I stated that I do have baffles, my pipes are louder than stock, but not obnoxiously loud...
Further more, you don't know me, and you have no clue what I wear, or how I ride....
You sir can kindly G.F.Y.S.
 
Old Apr 27, 2011 | 04:54 PM
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loud and proud...?
 
Old Apr 27, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dickey
It's not loud that's so bad, it's the TYPE of loud. For instance

Loud big block Chevy: Sounds cool
Loud 4 cylinder car with fart muffler: Sounds like crap

I don't agree with this one, I got a Skunk 2 on my rice burner and it sounds pretty mellow. Course I actually took the time to tune it.
 
Old Apr 27, 2011 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfGuitar141
So I'm a selfish *****, I don't recall flaming you on this forum Garandman....you seem to be pretty full of yourself...
Did you read my entire post, or just take from it the parts you found the easiest to bash and insult.....?
Had you read my entire post you might have saw the part where I stated that I do have baffles, my pipes are louder than stock, but not obnoxiously loud...
Further more, you don't know me, and you have no clue what I wear, or how I ride....
You sir can kindly G.F.Y.S.
NP, guess IF means something different where you live.

And you are correct, I don't know you or what you wear, so fill me in?
 
Old Apr 27, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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.."respect your surroundings and other people
Exactly, we could all live in harmony and not fear we are going to have pull off some very expensive exhaust because of a handful of people that dont care. I am respectful of my neighbors, dont idle any more than necessary, shift slow thru the gears. After I am on the highway I kick that baby in the a$$ and have at it. Nosie restrictions are making their way across the country, in the end we will all pay because of a few.My dealer has a sign that "asks" everyone to respect the rights of others regarding noise. He is trying to tell us something.
 
Old Apr 27, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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Few bikes are louder than mine( V&H short shots wide open) I do my best in certain situations to stay off the throttle but I'm sure i still offend the noise police... don't care. There are many things daily that offend me, I don't whine and I expect the same from others. As far as restrictions, you keep bending your knees... I'll just keep raising my finger.
 
Old Apr 27, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by oakleaf
loud and proud...?

I hear that same phrase when obnoxious fat black women spin off in public around here .
 
Old Apr 28, 2011 | 12:20 AM
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Whats being old... have to do with to loud ?
 
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 01:40 AM
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The more the limit of tolerance to loud pipes is pushed the faster they will be illegal. There are a hellava lot more non bike people out there who vote and have a louder voice than our pipes. Common sense should dictate behavior on this subject, its clear to me by reading some of the posts there is a lack of it. Some get it and as expected some don't while some don't care. Its the old one third rule of behavior again. There you go, the recipe for the man to come down and force us to put stock pipes back on. A backdoor around that is emissions control. I believe in clean air, but I don't like it to be used as an excuse to go after another issue. Just like the ******** in Wisconsin trying to bust collective bargaining, it has nothing to do with balancing the budget or reducing the deficit, it has everything to do with cutting the heart out of the unions so they can't contribute to their preferred political candidates. Kind of backdoor approach as well. As the saying goes, "theres more than one way to skin a cat".

Depends what side of bike you ride usually dictates your take on this. I have both and agree that Harleys are more obnoxious than sport bike exhausts. Only when the I4 Japanese machines are hitting 15K + rpm are they considered annoying to me and that is usually done on the open road. Yeah, they can rip it from stop light to stop light, but that kind of riding doesn't last too long. Either they get popped or get killed. The Vtwin bikes like Ducati and other brands don't even come close and in fact I have a full titanium Leo Vince exhaust on my 999R and its not loud at all, I would consider it quiet by some Harley standards. The exhaust note isn't high pitched so it doesn't pierce your ears like the rapping of some Harley straight pipes do. My RK has Cycle Shacks and a Big Sucker and at first I thought they were too loud, but they mellowed out after putting on some miles. They are at their loudest just before gear shifts at WOT. I guess maybe to some others they may be too loud, thats just the way it is. I did set off an alarm the other day, my first one. Lastly, what the sport bike people I hung with wonder, mainly Ducati people, is the disconnect between exhaust noise and accelleration. With the sport bike theres a correlation between the two, the louder the bike gets the faster it goes, however with most Harleys loud doesn't mean fast. We saw this in action watching about 20 Harleys leaving a biker bar/restaurant one day. I guess all the riders agree to crank it on out of the parking lot and it kind of left us bewildered. We likely missed the point, maybe in the Harley culture there is no standard or relationship between exhaust noise and speed, but maybe the exhaust noise is the standard people appreciate and understand it has nothing to do with accelleration. I guess its a culture thing and if it is, thats cool to me. I actually like the exhaust tone of my bike now, especially the sound when just cruising down the blacktop. But I don't like obnoxious pipes, like some others contend,the rider may have some personal issues. Either they are trying to impress themselves or trying to **** people off, just a segment of our society in general. In law enforcement there is an absolute truth between driving behavior and one's personality. You find someone with a crap driving record you'll likely find someone with a chip on their shoulder. The same goes for that element in the Harley culture who disregards the rights of others, in this case disturbing the peace in a neighborhood setting with their obnoxious pipes. The worst are the ones who know they have loud pipes and refuse to do anything about it. Kind of an FU attitude, you can just see that big chip on their shoulder glaring at you.
 

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Originally Posted by dickey
It's not loud that's so bad, it's the TYPE of loud. For instance

Loud Harley: Sounds cool
Loud Crotchrocket: Sounds like crap

Loud big block Chevy: Sounds cool
Loud 4 cylinder car with fart muffler: Sounds like crap

Loud Zeppelin or Floyd: Sounds cool
Loud Rap: Sounds like crap

Loud Stratocaster: Sounds cool
Loud accordion: Sounds like crap

Loudmouth hot babe: Barely acceptable
Loudmouth fat chick: Totally UNacceptable
Now That's what I'm talking about
 



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