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Old Oct 23, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Anyone have experience with this scenario:

Bought a CA bike. Moved and attempted to sell out of CA.

Wondering what difference, if any, CA emissions equipment and configurations have on 49-state resale value.

2 bikes identical for sale in say, NJ. One is a VA bike. One is a CA bike. Are they priced the same?
 
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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The CA bike has more pollution equipment on it. Non-CA residents will not want it if they know about it. Does not affect the resale, really.
 
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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I live in CA, and once bought a 49 state model bike from florida, so I wouldnt have to deal with the CA crap. But it easy to take off. I don't think most non CA people are aware of this.
 
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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i would prefer the non CA bike too
 
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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Wondering cause I got the itch for new bike. Have a non-CA bike in CA (with appropriate miles to sell it here) and thinking about a trade. I'm buying for me and not for resale but can't help wondering about future potential for resale (just in case).
 
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Mine came out of Oregon, but was built for Kalifornia.

When I got it with 2000 miles on it, the previous owner already de-calified it. SE II slip ons took care of the kittys in the muffler and the SERT and download fattened it up where it needed it. Don't see the charcoal canister anymore either?

IMO, most people will change the mufflers anyhow, so a Cali bike was worth no less to me.
 
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I wouldn't want any vehicle if it came from idiotsville, also known as Kalifornia.
 
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 12:43 AM
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My tech tells me my California bike also has a different cam in it. California requires exhaust valves to close completely before the intake valves open. 49 state bikes allow for some scaveging with their cams. Haven't verified this but sounds credible.[8D]
 
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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: goodbirds

My tech tells me my California bike also has a different cam in it. California requires exhaust valves to close completely before the intake valves open. 49 state bikes allow for some scaveging with their cams. Haven't verified this but sounds credible.[8D]
That seems pretty far fetched as we did a calibration on an Atkinson Cycle engine at work for a hybrid vehicle. That engine cycle has tremendous overlap.

Wouldn't be to hard to verify cam part numbers at a stealer vs. here say.

As for getting a Kali bike.... I was unaware until I checked the VIN out and broke it down. Never dawned on me that Oregon was next door. I read in a bike rag that MANY bikes on the west coast, even Nevada & Utah sold ones could be Kali legal, just have to break down the VIN to find out. But it sure runs freakin' good without all the issues I read about from all the other 06's with popping, lean conditions, poor MPG etc. I think the dealer out there got the dyno tune pretty darn close. And since I do calibrations for a living on dynos, I am pleased.

Funny thing though, I still have all my silly GOVT stickers, and NO WHERE does it mention CAFE stuff?
 
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I got my Road King from out of state.

I was sweating for a bit after reading the threads on nightmare registations. It had over 7500 miles and to insure I could register it it turned out to be a Kali approved mc.

It would be safe to say that a 50 state Harley would be worth a little more cause of the HUGE market for bikes in the state of Kalifornia. Lots of people with large amounts of money looking for Harleys in the state.

 



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