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Old May 15, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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Ok so I have read every page on countersteering on this forum and I am still confused about the concept. I definitely do not doubt it because I tried it last night...deliberately at least. When I tried it just a little bit I found that my bike turned REAL quick so what I need help with is how much pressure do you apply to the handlebars? Also do you need to apply pressure throughout the entire turn or do you just do it to initiate your turns. Kind of crazy I have been riding for a little while and nobody has ever mentioned the term countersteering. I am sure learing how to perfect will be an invaluable lesson so thanks in advance for your responses.
 
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Dont listen to me. Smokediver is clearly the expert here
 

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You countersteer through a turn and apply as much pressure as needed. Make sure you look in the direction you WANT to go, not to the sides or directly in front of the bike. Look through the curve and you'll be fine.

As for how pressure to use? Use what you need to in order to make it through smoothly. Apply pressure slowly. Only apply quick pressure if in an emergency situation and need to get out the way quickly.
 
Old May 15, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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You'll develop a feel for how much pressure based on speed and arc of curve or turn. You will hold pressure thru the curve. You are probably already doing it and not realizing it.
 
Old May 15, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sctrooper
Ok so I have read every page on countersteering on this forum and I am still confused about the concept. I definitely do not doubt it because I tried it last night...deliberately at least. When I tried it just a little bit I found that my bike turned REAL quick so what I need help with is how much pressure do you apply to the handlebars? Also do you need to apply pressure throughout the entire turn or do you just do it to initiate your turns. Kind of crazy I have been riding for a little while and nobody has ever mentioned the term countersteering. I am sure learing how to perfect will be an invaluable lesson so thanks in advance for your responses.
It's a slight steady pressure, and it's the only way to ride. If you enter a right turn, put steady pressure on the right bar. If it's a left turn, pressure on the left bar. You can cruise through sweepers and recurves and it looks like your bike is on autopilot. You really don't even move. Just give it the right pressure. Adjust the pressure for the degree and length of the curve.

Once you get used to both hands, you might want to play with doing all the counter steering with just the throttle hand. Push for right, pull for left. Once you get the hang of it, it will become automatic.

It only works at speed... not suitable for maneuvering around the driveway..
 
Old May 15, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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HA I feel youre pain buddy!! I figured it out by accident one day. Easiest way I can describe it is "bump" the handelbar left and it will cause a turn to the right and vice versa....Go to YouTube and search "countersteer" Good illustration of it there.......
unless i am misunderstanding what you are saying here, you've got it backwards. push left, lean left, turn left.....

if you've been riding for a while, whether bicycle or motorcycle, you've been doing it all along, you've just never thought about it. now that you're thinking about it, you're overthinking it.
 
Old May 15, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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unless i am misunderstanding what you are saying here, you've got it backwards. push left, lean left, turn left.....

if you've been riding for a while, whether bicycle or motorcycle, you've been doing it all along, you've just never thought about it. now that you're thinking about it, you're overthinking it.

WHAT? OH wait,, youre right! (ive NEVER been accused of "overthinking")
 
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Originally Posted by Challenger
HA I feel youre pain buddy!! I figured it out by accident one day. Easiest way I can describe it is "bump" the handelbar left and it will cause a turn to the right and vice versa....Go to YouTube and search "countersteer" Good illustration of it there.......

Oh and it is used to START a turn....and has to be above a certain speed...where I find it used is changing lanes and passing
OP, avoid the above advice. It'll get you hurt
 
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Push in the direction you want to turn, as stated, push left go left and vice versa, it works like a gyroscope. Some of the best advice ever given was to turn your head AND your eyes where you want to go. Turn them both, don't turn you head one way and let your eyes wander! your bike will go where you look...period!
 
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If you every been around a curve on a motorcycle, you have already counter steered.
 



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