All the helmet threads....
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Personally, I do not give a hoot about the statistics related to helmets and fatalities/injuries. My position is that it is my choice to decide whether I wear a helmet or not. Nobody elses business but mine. When we allow idiot politicians to make that decision for us, we are opening the door for other idiotic infringements on our rights. Suppose some do-gooder politician decided it was saver to play chess thant softball, and he has statistics to back his claim up. Should he propose legislation banning softball in favor of chess??? Of course that is rediculous - but so is telling me what activities I can participate in and what safety gear I need. MY CHOICE. Let the politicians start solving some of the problems with the economy and stay the heck out of my personal life.
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Some of the low rent nursing homes aren't fit for dogs either. I'm sure the guy wasn't attacking your wife. There are a lot of places you could end up that would turn your stomach, and she probably doesn't work at one of those..
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Very well said and very true!
Personally, I do not give a hoot about the stats related to helmets and fatalities/injuries. My position is that it is my choice to decide whether I wear a helmet or not. Nobody elses business but mine. When we allow idiot politicians to make that decision for us, we are opening the door for other idiotic infringements on our rights. Suppose some do-gooder politician decided it was saver to play chess that softball, and he has statistics to back his claim up. Should he propose legislation banning softball in favor of chess??? Of course that is rediculous - but so is telling me what activities I can participate in and what safety gear I need. MY CHOICE. Let the politicians start solving some of the problems with the economy and stay the heck out of my personal life.
Personally, I do not give a hoot about the stats related to helmets and fatalities/injuries. My position is that it is my choice to decide whether I wear a helmet or not. Nobody elses business but mine. When we allow idiot politicians to make that decision for us, we are opening the door for other idiotic infringements on our rights. Suppose some do-gooder politician decided it was saver to play chess that softball, and he has statistics to back his claim up. Should he propose legislation banning softball in favor of chess??? Of course that is rediculous - but so is telling me what activities I can participate in and what safety gear I need. MY CHOICE. Let the politicians start solving some of the problems with the economy and stay the heck out of my personal life.
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There are upscale ($$$) nursing homes, and there are personal care homes. I'm sure there are good ones, but the personal care homes I've seen are typically a private residence where an individual has decided to reap the cash benefits of housing invalids. Many of those places are indeed staffed by minimum wage losers, and on occasion not staffed at all.
Some of the low rent nursing homes aren't fit for dogs either. I'm sure the guy wasn't attacking your wife. There are a lot of places you could end up that would turn your stomach, and she probably doesn't work at one of those..
Some of the low rent nursing homes aren't fit for dogs either. I'm sure the guy wasn't attacking your wife. There are a lot of places you could end up that would turn your stomach, and she probably doesn't work at one of those..
I am sure there are, but to categorize everyone working in nursing homes as minimum wage losers is not accurate and shows a lack of knowledge on his part.
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As for the studies, somewhere, a few months ago, I saw some stats showing that Illinois had a better MC safety record than Wisconsin, even though Illinois has no helmet law for anyone and Wisconsin has a DOT for everybody law.
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Here ya go ->
http://www.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA/Commu...iles/tt346.pdf
The huge piece of missing data is that they don't account for motorcycle miles driven after the helmet law was reinstated. I'm guessing that number went down a bunch, too.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA/Commu...iles/tt346.pdf
The huge piece of missing data is that they don't account for motorcycle miles driven after the helmet law was reinstated. I'm guessing that number went down a bunch, too.
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Sorry, I'm gonna have to call you on that one. Only riders under 18 in Wisconsin are required to wear a helmet.
I think what you mean is that Illinois (no helmet law) and Michigan (mandatory DOT helmet law) had the same number of motorcycle fatalities for a given year (not sure if it was last year or the year before).
Not really that valuable of info unless you know the number of registered motorcycles in each state, though.
I think what you mean is that Illinois (no helmet law) and Michigan (mandatory DOT helmet law) had the same number of motorcycle fatalities for a given year (not sure if it was last year or the year before).
Not really that valuable of info unless you know the number of registered motorcycles in each state, though.
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