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Like Ron750 said, it is very difficult to generate meaningful stats on this subject. In MN, you may have a lot of bike owners, but due to climate, is the total bike miles ridden comparable to those in Florida??? I am not aware of any statistics available that take into account all the possible variables. Regardless - I still think it is my business to decide on my safety equipment. If I wanted to be safe, I would not ride. I do try to ride safely, but I am willing to accept the risk and I enjoy riding, so I ride. I prefer to ride with no helmet, and I accept that risk too. I also do other things that "nobody should try at home", or "may cause death or serious injury". I have jumped out of a few airplanes, I have taken my grandson for hot air balloon ride, I have done some white water rafting.... It's the way I want to live my life.
Agreed....There are many things the government should not be involved in...
I'd like to see a study that compares the likelihood of having Traumatic Brain Injury when with or without a helmet. Death? I don't give a **** about that, I'll be dead.
Now, how many women want to lay a guy that can't count pocket change anymore and can't understand why. That I care about.
got me thinking. I live in a state with no helmet law and I was thinking if any studies have been done about helmet laws. If anyone has any data comparing fatal motorcycle accidents in states with and without helmet laws, it would be nice to see the comparison.
The best way to compare fatality rates is to look at individual states before and after they either pass or repeal a helmet law.
I'd like to see a study that compares the likelihood of having Traumatic Brain Injury when with or without a helmet. Death? I don't give a **** about that, I'll be dead.
Now, how many women want to lay a guy that can't count pocket change anymore and can't understand why. That I care about.
Since protective helmets absorb energy rather than transmitting it to the brain, what they do is actually shift everyone away from the "dead" end of the injury spectrum and toward the "living and undamaged" end of the spectrum. This means that:
Some who died without would still be dead with a helmet.
Some who died would instead survive, but with brain injuries.
Some who had brain injuries would have lessened brain injuries.
Some who had brain injuries would instead have no brain injuries.
etc.
Since protective helmets absorb energy rather than transmitting it to the brain, what they do is actually shift everyone away from the "dead" end of the injury spectrum and toward the "living and undamaged" end of the spectrum. This means that:
Some who died without would still be dead with a helmet.
Some who died would instead survive, but with brain injuries.
Some who had brain injuries would have lessened brain injuries.
Some who had brain injuries would instead have no brain injuries.
etc.
Ok, good. Let's see a study comparing the numbers to see if that actually holds true.
Do you also think its plausible that riders not wearing a helmet are more cautious than those that do wear a helmet? Around here I see a lot more sport bike riders that wear helmets than I do cruiser style bikes. I not sure, but I think helmets fit more with the sport bike culture than the cruiser style culture... thats my best guess.
What's wrong with "LET THE RIDER DECIDE" principle? As has been pointed out numerous times, Statistics are usually BS since the agenda of the person collecting them interferes with the science (in other words, it makes the statistics meaningless). I know my mellon could be crushed in a wreck. Let me worry about that. Collect usless statistics on something else and leave me alone. I have cervical spine issues that - if I had to wear a helmet - I could not ride! I want to ride. I know the risks. I would not want anybody to tell me I need to wear a helmet. That would be the end of my riding.
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Do you also think its plausible that riders not wearing a helmet are more cautious than those that do wear a helmet? Around here I see a lot more sport bike riders that wear helmets than I do cruiser style bikes. I not sure, but I think helmets fit more with the sport bike culture than the cruiser style culture... thats my best guess.
That's been my observation too. Helmets are simply part of the sport bike culture (I'd say 90% wear helmets). The Harley cruiser culture eschews helmet use (90% don't wear helmets). The Harley touring culture favors helmet use considerably more than cruisers (might be about 50%).
These threads are quite entertaining. Non-helmet wearing riders want to reinforce their position by minimizing the risk of going without a helmet while helmet wearing riders want to justify their reward of mitigated risk of severe injury at the cost of some discomfort and diminished "coolness".
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