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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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I was doing the 20K service on the Ultra tonight. Drained the three holes and properly torqued the drain plugs.

Added oil to the engine and trans. Then I went to add oil to the primary and one lousy bolt would not turn. I have done the 5K,10K and 15K on the bike. I always torqued them in the star pattern and to specs.

I gave a little extra twist. Instant stripped star bolt. #^&#$/.

Never happened to me before and I have done many services. Well out came the drill and easy out. At least that worked. Added oil and put the cover back on. I found a bolt that had the right reach and thread but not a grade 8.

Looks like I will go to the dealer tomorrow and get the set of chrome bolts for the cover.
 
Old Nov 18, 2011 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by lh4x4
I was doing the 20K service on the Ultra tonight. Drained the three holes and properly torqued the drain plugs.

Added oil to the engine and trans. Then I went to add oil to the primary and one lousy bolt would not turn. I have done the 5K,10K and 15K on the bike. I always torqued them in the star pattern and to specs.

I gave a little extra twist. Instant stripped star bolt. #^&#$/.

Never happened to me before and I have done many services. Well out came the drill and easy out. At least that worked. Added oil and put the cover back on. I found a bolt that had the right reach and thread but not a grade 8.

Looks like I will go to the dealer tomorrow and get the set of chrome bolts for the cover.
Those Torx fasteners can be irritating. Glad you got it resolved. Hardware store will generally get you the same quality, better service and less expensive than the dealer on fasteners.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 01:07 AM
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Happened to me on my first service because the budget set of Torx bits from Sears was in between the actual size needed. We used a size larger than the torx fastener on the bike and tapped it in with a drift mallet and it came right out.

Then I bought a replacement bolt as well as the proper sized Torx bit.
 

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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 03:05 AM
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Yep, I've done that! Taught me to take off (or at least loosen) the derby cover BEFORE draining the oil.
 
Old Nov 18, 2011 | 05:00 AM
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Are the Torx on the derby cover actually Grade 8? Even a Grade 2 would suffice in that location.
 
Old Nov 18, 2011 | 05:01 AM
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i don't torque those bolts. it is not high pressure behind it, so i just go with the 'just snug' spec. i do tighten them in the star pattern, and i use a little anti-seize on the threads. in 10 years, haven't had any problems with it.....
 
Old Nov 18, 2011 | 05:21 AM
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i don't torque those bolts. it is not high pressure behind it, so i just go with the 'just snug' spec. i do tighten them in the star pattern, and i use a little anti-seize on the threads. in 10 years, haven't had any problems with it.....
There is no reason to torque those fasteners. Just snug, with some blue locktite, is all that is needed. I also think torquing the drain plugs is risky business. I've noticed a lot of people on this forum wind up with stripped drain plugs from a torque wrench.
 
Old Nov 18, 2011 | 05:22 AM
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Ace HW - get chrome or SS hex bolts vs. torx...much better (and cheaper).
 
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Originally Posted by dyna rider
There is no reason to torque those fasteners. Just snug, with some blue locktite, is all that is needed. I also think torquing the drain plugs is risky business. I've noticed a lot of people on this forum wind up with stripped drain plugs from a torque wrench.
Gotta disagree with the loc-tite on those. Torx heads strip too easy to lock em in.
I put anti- seize on them
 
Old Nov 18, 2011 | 06:17 AM
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Default Torqued the derby cover screws???

If you're having to rely on using a torque wrench to tighten the drain plugs and derby screws, you're doing something wrong.

Use a quality derby gasket and snug the torx screws. Install new 'O' rings on the drains as necessary. The drain plugs seal by means of compressing the 'o' rings, not by thread (bolt tightness). If the drain plug 'o' rings are constantly being destroyed, you're overtightening them.

Save the torque wrench for the critical fasteners.
 



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