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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MattInFla
No grudge whatsoever.

Here's a good brief on the issue: http://www.msgroup.org/Tip.aspx?Num=224

He has the actual data on his site, I just can't seem to find it.

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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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Believe it or don't as you choose.

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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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I took MSF. My friend took rider's edge. Same class. Some of the instructor's even taught both classes. They were even using the same college parking lot. Only diff.....riders edge riders were on Buell Blasts. MSFers were on Honda Nighthawks.
 
Old Feb 16, 2012 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Brockmeister
Only diff.....riders edge riders were on Buell Blasts. MSFers were on Honda Nighthawks.
true true

Originally Posted by Deer Stalker
Riding hard or being able to 'outride' others does not have to equal 'smarter rider' though. I know plenty of riders of high ability but they can take risks that sometimes don't pay off equally as well as a novice.
true too :-)
 
Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:00 PM
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Google search "MSF" with the state you live in and all the courses taught by private companies and community colleges will come up. They are the same course taught by each venue.
 
Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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Since I failed to transfer my motorcyle endorsement from another state years ago, I opted for the Rider's Edge course at one of the local dealerships since for one reason, I heard it took weeks to a couple of months to schedule a state test. Since I purchased a new bike, the dealership also provided me with a gift card which I used towards the cost of the Rider's Edge course. The course was 2 half days and 2 full days. At the course, MSF materials were passed out. The insructors taught not only the Rider's Edge course, but MSF courses at the community college, the advanced course, and high speed racing courses at the race track. Upon completion of the Rider's Edge course, a completion certificate was issued that could be presented to DMV for the motorcycle indorsement. As mentioned, HOG also provided a $50 credit rebate as well. My cousin also took the MSF course through the community college. He liked the lower price, but he complained about the time it took for him to be able to take it and about how small the bikes were since he is a good size guy. Also, when I took the course we started with 12 people and only 10 passed. A couple who passed were also still on active duty and stated that the would have had to wait 2-3 months before they could take the course on base.
 
Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:35 PM
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Take the class at the college. The only advantage to Riders Edge is the smaller class size and the slower pace. They are the both based on the MSF materiel.
 
Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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With the MSF course you dont have to go take the riders test at the dmv whereas the Harley course, you still have to go to the DMV and take the riders test. Since the HD is not state funded.

This is if you live in illinois.

Its 20 bucks here regradless of what type of class it is. And you have the option to donate that 20. So technically it's free. But most people donate the 20.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vizcarmb
With the MSF course you dont have to go take the riders test at the dmv whereas the Harley course, you still have to go to the DMV and take the riders test. Since the HD is not state funded.

This is if you live in illinois.
Not in Nevada.
 
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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Completely jealous of the "cheap" cost some of you get. Here in SC the Tech. College offers MSF. Basic is about 279 if I remember and the ERC is 79.

I do know as stated ad-infiniteum above, that the RE course is MSF based. So I'd go with the cost effective course.

I'm actually taking ERC this weekend to brush up. I'm also considering taking the Instructors course starting in March, only problem is it's over an hour away and is going to cost me 350. It's 2 1/2 days each weekend for a total of four weekends. If you break down the cost it's worth it in my opinion. Plus then I get to instruct and keep help keep my skills in check.
 



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