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Nope. The only thing I stand corrected on was when I said the late 70'S. I should have said 1982. I was going off memory and knew it was in that time frame.
Production of the 3rd. generation SAA ceased in 1982 with a serial number range of SA80,000 to SA99,999. They began production again in 1994 as a response to the interest in Cowboy Action Shooting. Changes were made and they introduced a whole new serial number for this run of SAA's. Take a look at the Colt forum and the consensus there is that represents a fourth generation but some insist that it may be a "late" third generation. I agree with those who claim it to be a fourth generation if for no other reason than they assigned a new serial number series for it.
You stand corrected.
Production of the 3rd. generation SAA ceased in 1982 with a serial number range of SA80,000 to SA99,999. They began production again in 1994 as a response to the interest in Cowboy Action Shooting. Changes were made and they introduced a whole new serial number for this run of SAA's. Take a look at the Colt forum and the consensus there is that represents a fourth generation but some insist that it may be a "late" third generation. I agree with those who claim it to be a fourth generation if for no other reason than they assigned a new serial number series for it.
You stand corrected.
So, not only were you wrong about your own gun, you were wrong on the merits of my point. Again, you stand corrected, even if you don't know it.
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Hi Captain Bligh. I didn't connect it to battery posts. There is a little pig tail coming off the bike (male/female) which the battery tender hooks into, i.e. it's not like cables with clamps, but it's a fitting made for the purpose, or so I was told. Thanks, though.
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he does kind of have a point there about the $18k bike that wont start and a $400 jalopy that does.. but then again, my 01 EG is the most reliable vehicle i have ever owned.. it has started and ran every single time i tried since i bought it.
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According to the operating manual for the model of battery tender that you have, the red charging light staying on was a clear indication that something was wrong, such as cross polarity, loose connection or weak battery. Your tender has protection built into it that will not allow it to charge a battery that has voltage below 3 volts. Additionally, the manual states several times that it is recommended to check the battery periodically, in the event of gas buildup, leakage and excessive heat; not only failure to charge.
And typically, on a motorcycle that will not be operated for several months, the battery will be affected by self-discharge. Even more so if left in the motorcycle, because of parasitic loads generated by diode leakage, maintaining the computer memory, etc. It is recommended for winter storage to remove the battery, fully charge it and store in a cool, dry place. Check the voltage every 3 months and charge if necessary.
Reading back on a previous post of yours, it appeared that you had an issue with the security system during your early days of ownership; with the system armed and the flashers draining your battery during the trip home. While I understand your frustrations, I see where some due diligence on your part could have spared you a few headaches. To borrow your terminology, you "didn't know squat about squat". Maybe an 18K Fatboy Lo with ABS and Security may have been a bigger step than what you should have taken.
And typically, on a motorcycle that will not be operated for several months, the battery will be affected by self-discharge. Even more so if left in the motorcycle, because of parasitic loads generated by diode leakage, maintaining the computer memory, etc. It is recommended for winter storage to remove the battery, fully charge it and store in a cool, dry place. Check the voltage every 3 months and charge if necessary.
Reading back on a previous post of yours, it appeared that you had an issue with the security system during your early days of ownership; with the system armed and the flashers draining your battery during the trip home. While I understand your frustrations, I see where some due diligence on your part could have spared you a few headaches. To borrow your terminology, you "didn't know squat about squat". Maybe an 18K Fatboy Lo with ABS and Security may have been a bigger step than what you should have taken.
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Arrrrh Jim lad are you sure your gun is actually made by Colt, cos from what I've read the black powder versions are made by Uberti or pietta then sent to the States for bluing and assembling and are sold under the Colt signature brand.
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The NM (used to mean National Match) serial guns are made from Brazil parts but are fitted and finished in the US. I've heard of better quality control because of this but it still turned me away.
I wanted a true made in US 1911 so I went with an Ed Brown Special Forces. Yeah it was expensive as hell but its the finest fitted and functioning gun I've ever owned. It truly is the center of my collection.
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The bike should get sorted out easily enough. As for the firearm, buyer beware. It sounds to me like you bought a fantasy of what you think a Colt should be. Reality is that you overpaid for an engraving of a little prancing pony. I know nothing about cowboy guns, but I know a whole lot about 1911s. Anyone that has been buying and selling firearms over the last ten years knows that Colt churns out guns of varying quality as to fit and finish. Most of them run, but they may not be the best specimens cosmetically. In the 1911 world, Colt is known for drilling dust covers and recoil spring tunnels off center. I'd never buy or take delivery of a Colt without looking it over first. I can't tell you how many times I've walked away from a Colt purchase over manufacturing flaws visible to the naked eye. I have one good one in the house, but I had to shop for it.
But, you got the little prancing pony so you should be all giddy over that.
But, you got the little prancing pony so you should be all giddy over that.
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hgdzr: Nice post. Yes, it would have been nice if Harley told me all that. They didn't. Harley loaded the bike, Harley told me to keep the fobs within five feet of the bike, Harley told me to use a tender during storage. Harley told me they found the problem and fixed it. In then end, you are correct. I got in over my head. I thought 18K, following directions, was a good thing. But now that I know part of owning a Harley is working on it and baby sitting it, I hope I've learned. I guess my anger is really with myself, having thought I'd learned that lesson with another American icon.
coltsfan: Your gun is probably worth one whole hell of a lot more than any NIB Colt like mine. Depends on what you mean by "poor condition." It would have to be a rust relic to be worth less.
Cygnusx51: I'd heard the same things, but research told me not so regarding the SAA. You are correct as to the black powder Navy, Army, cap and ball guns, etc.
I went back through my records last night and found a lot of stuff about that Colt deal that I had forgotten. It's been three years. None of it is relevant to my point. I guess I was trying to suppress the memories.
I actually sent it back a third time for my money back and they talked me into trying an entirely different gun. I looked it over and it passed muster. I did not look close enough. While it is light years ahead of the first gun, it does have one flaw: it's the gun with the 1/8" difference between the cylinder radius and the loading gate/recoil shield. That's when I gave.
coltsfan: Your gun is probably worth one whole hell of a lot more than any NIB Colt like mine. Depends on what you mean by "poor condition." It would have to be a rust relic to be worth less.
Cygnusx51: I'd heard the same things, but research told me not so regarding the SAA. You are correct as to the black powder Navy, Army, cap and ball guns, etc.
I went back through my records last night and found a lot of stuff about that Colt deal that I had forgotten. It's been three years. None of it is relevant to my point. I guess I was trying to suppress the memories.
I actually sent it back a third time for my money back and they talked me into trying an entirely different gun. I looked it over and it passed muster. I did not look close enough. While it is light years ahead of the first gun, it does have one flaw: it's the gun with the 1/8" difference between the cylinder radius and the loading gate/recoil shield. That's when I gave.
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