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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by trip59
Might it be more pronounced with a carb than with the MM EFI? Hard to say if it ran similarly idle-wise, as the EFI ran at 1k RPM vs the few hundred the carb runs.
Could be, could be... At idle, a Carb will provide a set fuel/air mixture whereas EFI will be constantly tweaking it, particularly if there's an imperfection in the system somewhere. Therefore, a rough idle might be harder to detect. The higher idle speed might also disguise it to a degree.

Of course, someone with more technical expertise might be able to discount this...
 
Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 0488FB
Is the choke shutting off 100%? Should have good adjustment using mixture screw. Sounds as though pilot/slow jet is too big. Is the carb super clean inside? I know, dumb questions but a small piece of dirt restricting air flow in an idle circuit can cause havoc.
Rebuilt it, full disassembly, small brushes, Q-tips, cleaner, etc.

Would too big of a slow jet cause it to stumble on one cylinder? That's the most puzzling thing to me, the front has great rhythm, steady and clean, the rear runs like crap
 
Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:38 AM
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I was going to make a bunch of jokes and be a bit of an @$$ but instead I called a great tech who just happens to deal with this allot. He said that yes in fact the front cylinder can be beautiful in every way and the rear can go to hell or the other way around and that what you are describing is probably due to the leak you found. The jets should not be an issue.
 
Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:06 AM
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front and rear cylinder's run on the same jets, It aint your carb.

start with the basics, compression test? index spark timing both cylinders. swap plugs (new doesnt mean they are good )
check /swap (if you can) plug leads.
you already have checked for manifold leaks ,do it again.( but if front runs good , it is probably ok , leaks causes vacumn problem on both jugs.

idle that baby to about 900 ,see what u got ..potato --pause----potato.
aint good even tho it sounds neat...
 

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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:46 AM
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Did you hook up the VOES correctly? Or test it? I missed that when rebuilding my carb and the bike idled and ran like ****.

Other than that maybe an exhaust leak on the poor running cylinder, I would also toss in known good plugs and give it a shot.

I wouldn't think it's the jets, one carb feeds both cylinders so if one is running perfect and the other isn't the carb is probably fine.
 

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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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Rear cyl running like crap? Either still have leak or ignition coil/wire issue. Let us know.
 
Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by trip59
I can close the mix screw all the way, and after a few seconds it will die, but throughout the range, no change in smoothness from almost in to all the way out and about to fall out.
I would think the motor should react instantly to any adjustment.
Could be the carb is leaking inside somewhere and or intake leak?
 
Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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All of you guys bring up good and valid points but the thing that has me is that there is no change when he adjusts the slow idle jet from almost all the way in to all the way out no change.

Dude, Try the smaller jet and see if it changes at all???????
It's Worth a shot. You have the smaller jet so it's just a little time to change to see if it affects it at all.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 1flhtk4me
I would think the motor should react instantly to any adjustment.
Could be the carb is leaking inside somewhere and or intake leak?
If it was a carb issue or leak at the intake manifold I think both cylinders would be affected.

I'm no expert at all though so take my advice with a grain of salt.
 
Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by babalu
If it was a carb issue or leak at the intake manifold I think both cylinders would be affected.
I missed the part about the rear Cylinder!
 



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