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Old Mar 17, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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A couple of days ago I took my 2010 softail for a little ride at lunch time and everything was as it should be.

A few hours later after work I go for another ride and the darn thing won't start. I can hear the fuel pump prime, it cranks but won't start (yes smart asses I had gas in the tank).
I start thinking uh-oh, something is bad, I wonder if someone has screwed with my ride (it was in a public parking lot) between lunch and quitting time.

So to make a long story short, I go out and buy a new battery, just in case I have a bum battery (it is several years old). No Dice! Plunk in the new battery and my bitch still won't start.

This morning I call my favorite dealer and tell them my trouble, they offer to come pick-up my baby and trailer her to the shop.

This afternoon the dealer tells me that it wasn't my imagination the bike cranks but won't start and that they had re-downloaded the start-up mapping. Now she starts up and purr's like the mean bitch she is

Funny thing is, the bike is several years old and was dyno'd a year ago. In other words the bike has not been hooked up to the computer for about a year so I know the start-up mapping *was* ok until a few days ago.

Bizarre, no?
 
Old Mar 17, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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You woud rather have the dealer tell you , "you had a bad hose-a-ma-bob....and need a new dink-a-ma-tink"?
Fine....they downloaded something or other, and it fixed it. Can't be happy with that?
 
Old Mar 17, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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You woud rather have the dealer tell you , "you had a bad hose-a-ma-bob....and need a new dink-a-ma-tink"?
Sorry I wasn't clear. I am not angry or upset with the dealer. They are stand-up folks that have never let me down, including today. In fact if you ask I will tell you who the dealer is and tell you they are the greatest thing since sliced bread. I know many people have had bad experiences with dealers but these folks have customer service that is second to none.

Fine....they downloaded something or other, and it fixed it. Can't be happy with that?
Yes I am very happy. What I thought would be a big deal turned out to be not a big deal.

I was just posting that I found it bizarre that the mapping would go wonky like that after all these months and wondered if anyone else has experienced something similar.

However, I do thank you for taking it upon yourself to be the ultimate dealer defender in the universe. You are doing a fine job.
 
Old Mar 17, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Spork
Bizarre, no?
It's not odd at all. Your bike is just prepping you for the end of the world which, according to some people, is right around the corner.


Maybe it was a sun flare with extra electromagnetic forces pointed directly at your bike when it was parked.


Did your gremlin bell fall off recently (or do you even have one)?


If none of the above apply, line your helmet with tin foil.
 
Old Mar 17, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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Solar flares? Sorry, didn't read Monkeyboy22's post.
 
Old Mar 17, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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It's not odd at all. Your bike is just prepping you for the end of the world which, according to some people, is right around the corner.

Maybe it was a sun flare with extra electromagnetic forces pointed directly at your bike when it was parked.

Did your gremlin bell fall off recently (or do you even have one)?

If none of the above apply, line your helmet with tin foil.
I don't have a gremlin bell and I cannot disprove the others do I still have to wear a tin foil hat? :0)

Actually I think there is probably bug in the software that only manifests in some bizarre set of circumstances or a sensor that for some reason went wonky and sent out false positives (because it appears to have been a cold start issue).
 
Old Mar 18, 2012 | 12:07 AM
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Anyways............... Take a close look at your scoot, front to back. Look for loose, dirty or corroded wiring & connections. Pay attention to the voltage regulator area. If you have an intermittent connection, you might have had a voltage fluctuation that might have given your on board computer a brain fart.
Hatch.
 
Old Mar 18, 2012 | 12:45 AM
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Everyone knows the ECM works through magic, your "spell" wore off, it happens. A little electronic voo doo and your back in business.
 
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What was the fee? If I may ask?

Originally Posted by Spork
I don't have a gremlin bell and I cannot disprove the others do I still have to wear a tin foil hat? :0)

Actually I think there is probably bug in the software that only manifests in some bizarre set of circumstances or a sensor that for some reason went wonky and sent out false positives (because it appears to have been a cold start issue).
 
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I would be concerned that the non volatile memory medium that stores the ECM data is breaking down.
 



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