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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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I'm getting 1447.916622 CC or 88 CI ( actually 88.35729338 CI )

"95" kit = 94.34595438CI or 1546.053193CC

I wouldhave to tell him its so big they have to express it in inches just like something elseI own .
 
Old Jan 4, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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1450 usually shuts those little 1000cc guys up real quick...
Yeah, 10% of 'em........ the other 90% reply that their little 1000 makes close 3X the HP and the same TQ as your 1450.
You don't wanna be goin' there very often.

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Old Jan 4, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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Paulo,please note the stock air cleaner. Been there done that. Actually I don't think they went back to ci till the 80ci .



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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Since we are on the subject. Can someone explaincc to me? If the 88" is 1450 and the 95" is1540 it seems thelarger the cc is the faster/larger the engine is.

Well why are the sports bike 600/750/900/1000/1300 all way way faster than our bikes? I never understood that.
 
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Sportbikes are way faster because:
They're lighter - by a whole lot.
Their smaller engines produce more hp, and are usually 4 cylinders versus HD's 2.
Displacement means very little when comparing big v-twins like HD to the sportbike crowd.
 
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Since we are on the subject. Can someone explaincc to me? If the 88" is 1450 and the 95" is1540 it seems thelarger the cc is the faster/larger the engine is.

Well why are the sports bike 600/750/900/1000/1300 all way way faster than our bikes? I never understood that.
A lot of things go into that, but you are comparing a large bore/short stroke engine with high horsepower to a large bore/long stroke engine with high torque. Give me high torque any time. Also you are comparing a sportbike with a cruiser. Try comparing a sportbike with a v-rod and see where you end up. You'll be suprised.
Will a stock import cruiser out run a stock H-D, usually, I'll still take the H-D. I've ran mine through the gears from 2nd thru 6th to over a hundred mph, and it got there plenty fast for me.
 
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Since we are on the subject. Can someone explaincc to me? If the 88" is 1450 and the 95" is1540 it seems thelarger the cc is the faster/larger the engine is.

Well why are the sports bike 600/750/900/1000/1300 all way way faster than our bikes? I never understood that.
cc is a measurement (cubic centimeters) of the displacement (volume of the comubtion chamber). Think of it like a cara 350 cubic inch engine in a street car is a lot slower than a 350 ci engine in a drag racer. Same displacement, whole different hp, torque, speed ect ect. Know what I mean? Or think of it this way, a gas powered R/C car outrunning a Yugo, the Yugo has a much bigger engine, but the toy car is quicker.
 
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Being oversquare ( stroke longer than cylinder diameter ) the harley can't rev as quickly and as high as say a 4 cylinder of the same displacement .
One of thereasons is the weight of the conecting rods , its a 4'"stroke on the 88's
Lots of mass reversing direction .
Piston speed ( feet per second ) limits the top RPM , there is a point where durability comes into play .

For the sake of discusion lets say the 4 cyl had the same bore diameter as the 88Harley . Then it would have a 2" stroke to equal the same displacement .
For the same RPM it would have half of the piston speed ( again feet per second ) as the Harley .
At 1 rpm each harley piston travels 8 " , with the 4 cyl each piston travels 4 " .
So in theoryits redline could be twice that of the harley .

SO WHAT? For the same displacement( in this example ) the4 cyl. has the ability to use twice the air/fuel as the harley .


 
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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Sportbikes are way faster because:
They're lighter - by a whole lot.
Their smaller engines produce more hp, and are usually 4 cylinders versus HD's 2.
Displacement means very little when comparing big v-twins like HD to the sportbike crowd.
Not to mention that they have a red line that's in some cases more than double what a big twin can do, becasueof their much lower reciprocating weight.
The down side is that they HAVE to wind them up to the moon to make the power they do. Where a big twin makes gobbs of torque down near what thye would consider ahigh idle speed.
 
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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The down side is that they HAVE to wind them up to the moon to make the power they do. Where a big twin makes gobbs of torque down near what thye would consider a high idle speed.
Nah, Turbos have to be kept at high RPM to work (as do turbine engines.... but only Leno knows that).

Now, somebody tell me why that little Vulcan800 V-twin could outrun my TC88? Its not even a sportbike! (It also didn't sound half bad with Vance&Hines.... maybe I should have bought one, my crash would have been alot cheaper!).
 



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