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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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If it's the brake switch covered by the recall, then yep it'll cause issues with the cruise (if ECM detects signal from brake switch, it'll turn off your cruise) and it'll probably cause you to lose your rear brakes when it goes. Talked to the service guys at the dealer, they said that it doesn't necessarily start to leak before it goes, but when it goes you WILL lose your rear brakes.

Dealer replaced, bled brakes (ABS), & haven't had a problem with brakes or cruise since.
 
Old Aug 13, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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If it's the brake switch covered by the recall, then yep it'll cause issues with the cruise (if ECM detects signal from brake switch, it'll turn off your cruise) and it'll probably cause you to lose your rear brakes when it goes. Talked to the service guys at the dealer, they said that it doesn't necessarily start to leak before it goes, but when it goes you WILL lose your rear brakes.

Dealer replaced, bled brakes (ABS), & haven't had a problem with brakes or cruise since.
Thanks for the reply. I don't have ABS though. That is where I'm wondering if it is my switch. I am hoping but I can't figure out why it would effect something that is hydraulic.
 
Old Aug 13, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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I am going subscribe to this thread because I cannot understand how a failed switch (electrical) can cause a rear brake failure (mechanical). I can understand how it can affect the cruise control and abs system, but not the mechanical parts and a complete loss of the rear brake pressure. I guess I am going to learn something.
 
Old Aug 13, 2012 | 02:01 PM
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That's why I asked if it was the brakes or brake light.
 
Old Aug 13, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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I am going subscribe to this thread because I cannot understand how a failed switch (electrical) can cause a rear brake failure (mechanical). I can understand how it can affect the cruise control and abs system, but not the mechanical parts and a complete loss of the rear brake pressure. I guess I am going to learn something.
That is what I can't figure out either. It says on the recall it can cause brake fluid to leak, brake light not to work and possible brake failure on the rear brake. I'm thinking that the brake failure is linked to the ABS(electrical). In my case I hope it did cause the brake failure because it will be covered by recall. My warrenty was out in May so I'm screwed if it's anything else.
 
Old Aug 13, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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The switch is a pressure switch that is in the brake line.

The switch is #4 in the diagram and is in the brake line on the right side of the bike. Because it is in the brake line, failure can result in the brake fluid leaking out.

 

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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by danrad55
I am going subscribe to this thread because I cannot understand how a failed switch (electrical) can cause a rear brake failure (mechanical). I can understand how it can affect the cruise control and abs system, but not the mechanical parts and a complete loss of the rear brake pressure. I guess I am going to learn something.

The switch MELTS. Allowing BRAKE fluid to go past the two wires....which have MELTED.
When the fluid goes past the two wires, it does not compress the BRAKE discs....therefore the BRAKES do not engage.
 
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if the system is leaking, then I would understand the system failing. On my 2007 Dyna, non abs, the brake light switch is screwed into a fitting in the brake line, right off the rear master cylinder. If the switch fails, there is still pressure to the rear caliper, just no stop light (unless, if it fails it will keep the brake light on).Just seems a little crazy that if a switch fails in the brake system the whole rear brake system can fail. I know that if the abs fails on my car, the brake system will work, just not the abs. I am learning, but just don"t understand the logic in this. If, when the switch overheats and fails and then allows fluid to escape, then I can see the issues. I thought the OP said he did not see any fluid leaking out.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2012 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by danrad55
if the system is leaking, then I would understand the system failing. On my 2007 Dyna, non abs, the brake light switch is screwed into a fitting in the brake line, right off the rear master cylinder. If the switch fails, there is still pressure to the rear caliper, just no stop light (unless, if it fails it will keep the brake light on).Just seems a little crazy that if a switch fails in the brake system the whole rear brake system can fail. I know that if the abs fails on my car, the brake system will work, just not the abs. I am learning, but just don"t understand the logic in this. If, when the switch overheats and fails and then allows fluid to escape, then I can see the issues. I thought the OP said he did not see any fluid leaking out.
I didn't have any fluid leaking either; if the switch fails you lose your rear brakes whether it leaks or not. I'm assuming my switch leaked internally and because of the pressure in the system, it was just enough internal volume in the switch so I had no rear brakes.
 
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Originally Posted by Mike_M
I didn't have any fluid leaking either; if the switch fails you lose your rear brakes whether it leaks or not. I'm assuming my switch leaked internally and because of the pressure in the system, it was just enough internal volume in the switch so I had no rear brakes.
Mike M, I hope you are right. Still no word from the stealer.... I mean dealer. Keeping fingers crossed.
 
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