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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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It's happened to me on 3 different projects on my nightster. Screws are on pretty tight and as I am trying to remove one, I damage the screw head and the tool I am using to remove it can't get a good grip and slips.

Any pointers on how to prevent this from happening?
 
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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What type fastener head?
I use a little lapping compound on a phillips head screw driver. The grit helps get a grip on the slots.
Sometimes an impact driver is needed. (the type you smack with a hammer)
 
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mickey D
What type fastener head?
I use a little lapping compound on a phillips head screw driver. The grit helps get a grip on the slots.
Sometimes an impact driver is needed. (the type you smack with a hammer)
+1 - Can't be any help without knowing the type of screw. Your Sporty has slotted, phillips, hex and torx.
There are a number of T27 Torx screws on your bike and that bit size is not included in many Torx bit sets. Using a T25 bit on a T27 screw will strip the screw every time.
 
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You have a couple good answers there. Sometimes it helps to tap the fastener with a punch just to jar them loose.
Also good quality tools fit better.

Now on to more important topics.
I think the left one is better.
Why is she moving her lips?
 
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cHarley
+1 - Can't be any help without knowing the type of screw. Your Sporty has slotted, phillips, hex and torx.
There are a number of T27 Torx screws on your bike and that bit size is not included in many Torx bit sets. Using a T25 bit on a T27 screw will strip the screw every time.
All 3 were different heads. Philips, torx, and now hex. Lapping compound is a good idea. I see #800 and #600 here. Which one should I use?

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The last thing I do before leaving for the night is give every nut and bolt I'm going to touch the next day a shot of pb blaster or zep45.
 
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by benjamin247
All 3 were different heads. Philips, torx, and now hex. Lapping compound is a good idea. I see #800 and #600 here. Which one should I use?
Don't need to spend a lot of money, just get a cheap can of valve grinding compound at the local car parts place; might even have it at Walmart. Coarse is probably better. If a philips/allen/torqx head, tap it with a hammer to make sure it's seated well. Tap, not wham. If you have a slotted screw that tight, hope you know how to use an easy out.

If someone put those screws/bolts in with red loctite, they can be a bear to break loose. A propane torch or a heat gun that can put out 500 degrees or more will soften the loctite and sometimes then they'll be easy to back out. Gotta use some common sense with heat, don't let it hit anything plastic, or heat metal right by an o-ring or grommet. Stay away from paint! If you got some out, you can tell if loctite was used, will be some dried on the screw, and should be enough color to tell which was used. I like to use blue loctite putting most Harley hardware back in, doesn't weld it in there, but helps keep it from loosening from vibration, but you don't need heat to remove it. Blue, not green, the green wicking loctite is like super glue.

If you break the head off a screw/bolt, try getting all the rest off and remove the part/cover with the broken screw, if possible. Often there'll be enough threads exposed to grab with a visegrip. Good luck, and let us know if any of this worked for you.
 
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I learned a long time ago (back in the 60's when most of the screws on Honda motorcycles were aluminum) that nothing works better than one of these:
http://www.harborfreight.com/impact-...ase-37530.html
Ever since I started using one of these I have never lost a screw or bolt to head stripping.
 
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One problem is if U buy used, what did the prev owner use to install the bolts..

I've read in here some use the RED permanent type Loc-tite on the Pri, derby and point covers. then wonder why they strip the heads.

At work we used to also just tap the bolt straight in on bolts we couldn't break loose,, an impact socket does the same but better because it impart a backing out twist at the same time..

If that don't work, then U can apply heat to the body of the part, not the bolt. U want the body to enlarge, not the bolt.. but if loc-tite is used just heat will usually help.

Also a good set of tools and proper fitting are a must...



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Replace all removed bolts with Allan's.
 



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