Do you shift without the clutch?
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Apparently, there are some that have no real reason to do it, but do. I have to wonder why anyone would want to. On down the line, those same guys will be posting about how their tranny failed after "only" x amount of miles. I guess if you can dream up some idiotic way to do anything, someone is already doing it on a regular basis.
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The trans on the scooter is a completely different animal from the trucks that I have driven. There is no way to hesitate between the gears. I have never shifted the scooter without the clutch but I know a guy that claims he does it all the time. I think he is full of chidt.
Rode home clutch cableless a couple times over the years ,you can do it with a HD but from the noise the HD trans is NOT happy clutchless. ie;grinding clunking
PS big trucks have a neutral between every gear thats why ya can go clutchless except for takeoff.
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Patrick you can tell by the sound of the motor, when it would match the speed of the next gear. Plus like I said, the gears slide on the main shaft, the dogs keep the gears from sliding when they are under load, as soon as the load is released the gear can slide.
And just a gentle pull on the shifter, otherwise you will force the shift.
This is my personal opinion but I dont think it is any worse on the trans than when you clunk it into first gear when it is cold.
And just a gentle pull on the shifter, otherwise you will force the shift.
This is my personal opinion but I dont think it is any worse on the trans than when you clunk it into first gear when it is cold.
You know forget I asked. No offense meant. 'll just keep using the clutch. Thanks anyway.
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Its obvious from the post's that more of you spend a lot more time polishing the bikes than working on them.
A lot of b.s statements made on this thread.
The transmission is a CONSTANT MESH/ Dog shifting /drum channeled shifting forks. shift lever justs rotates the drum.
drum moves forks that move the dogs.
no way to grind a gear , or chip teeth . sound you hear on a bad shift is the dogs hitting on the slot in the gear. (shift was too slow)
and there is a Neutral between each gear , just not detented
all the dog needs is a little slack to move out of one gear to the next.
dogs are two sided little thingys between the free gears.
the dog locks the counter shaft to the selected gear.
that can be accomplished with a clutch, or ,or ,or
blip the throttle ..gear is just as happy to change.
those of you that dont understand , or have a feel for "blip"
then by all means use the clutch.
lay off the "urban legends" / what your buddy told ya
A lot of b.s statements made on this thread.
The transmission is a CONSTANT MESH/ Dog shifting /drum channeled shifting forks. shift lever justs rotates the drum.
drum moves forks that move the dogs.
no way to grind a gear , or chip teeth . sound you hear on a bad shift is the dogs hitting on the slot in the gear. (shift was too slow)
and there is a Neutral between each gear , just not detented
all the dog needs is a little slack to move out of one gear to the next.
dogs are two sided little thingys between the free gears.
the dog locks the counter shaft to the selected gear.
that can be accomplished with a clutch, or ,or ,or
blip the throttle ..gear is just as happy to change.
those of you that dont understand , or have a feel for "blip"
then by all means use the clutch.
lay off the "urban legends" / what your buddy told ya
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Its obvious from the post's that more of you spend a lot more time polishing the bikes than working on them.
A lot of b.s statements made on this thread.
The transmission is a CONSTANT MESH/ Dog shifting /drum channeled shifting forks. shift lever justs rotates the drum.
drum moves forks that move the dogs.
no way to grind a gear , or chip teeth . sound you hear on a bad shift is the dogs hitting on the slot in the gear. (shift was too slow)
and there is a Neutral between each gear , just not detented
all the dog needs is a little slack to move out of one gear to the next.
dogs are two sided little thingys between the free gears.
the dog locks the counter shaft to the selected gear.
that can be accomplished with a clutch, or ,or ,or
blip the throttle ..gear is just as happy to change.
those of you that dont understand , or have a feel for "blip"
then by all means use the clutch.
lay off the "urban legends" / what your buddy told ya
A lot of b.s statements made on this thread.
The transmission is a CONSTANT MESH/ Dog shifting /drum channeled shifting forks. shift lever justs rotates the drum.
drum moves forks that move the dogs.
no way to grind a gear , or chip teeth . sound you hear on a bad shift is the dogs hitting on the slot in the gear. (shift was too slow)
and there is a Neutral between each gear , just not detented
all the dog needs is a little slack to move out of one gear to the next.
dogs are two sided little thingys between the free gears.
the dog locks the counter shaft to the selected gear.
that can be accomplished with a clutch, or ,or ,or
blip the throttle ..gear is just as happy to change.
those of you that dont understand , or have a feel for "blip"
then by all means use the clutch.
lay off the "urban legends" / what your buddy told ya
Last edited by Harleycruiser; Oct 26, 2012 at 04:20 PM.
