So educate an old knuckle dragger ....
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1) how many tcs have you seen on the side of the ride due to scissored cranks?
2) i don't (didn't when stock) have decel pop, my tbw doesn't lag, and i didn't have to go to the dealer for my improvements.
3) what is so 'poorly thought out' about the security system?
4) i've had no issue with compensators on the 4 tcs i've owned.
5) the control of your own mechanical destiny is taken away'.... no, it isn't. you just have to get with the times. no, you aren't going to be able to fix your points on the side of the road with a matchbook anymore, and just because something is more modern than a kickstart, doesn't make it a goldwing wannabee.
2) i don't (didn't when stock) have decel pop, my tbw doesn't lag, and i didn't have to go to the dealer for my improvements.
3) what is so 'poorly thought out' about the security system?
4) i've had no issue with compensators on the 4 tcs i've owned.
5) the control of your own mechanical destiny is taken away'.... no, it isn't. you just have to get with the times. no, you aren't going to be able to fix your points on the side of the road with a matchbook anymore, and just because something is more modern than a kickstart, doesn't make it a goldwing wannabee.
2) I hear it all the time, always from a Twinkie. I've ridden TBW, and helped a guy with a bad starter clutch bump start his bike. It lags, and that's an example of when you'll notice it.
3) I've had to haul bikes home for friends who have had their security shut down, because of a dead fob or something in the system got wet.
4) Again, well documented on this forum. Not the type of thing that should cause trouble, but IT DOES. I've had no compensator issues on my Evo or Shovel either, in the time you've gone through four TC's and well before they existed.
5) It's great that you have the ability, equipment, and software to help yourself, but those aren't simple toolbag items anymore. It's a calculated adjustment made in a controlled evironment. The Goldwing wannabe comment was to illustrate that Goldwings can't be easily worked on either, but generally don't need it. The wannabe part is the differences I just mentioned above. TC's got more bugs and been through more internal design changes than any recent motor in production.
I'm glad you like yours...but I'm letting this generation go on by. Yeah, yeah I know...it's about CVO's. I heard the bearing cages are better than stock. Sorry for the semi-hijack.
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Damn this one went sideways right outa the gate , LOL I all I wanted to know is what the fuc a CVO is as I honestly had no clue . Still don't really care but ...... . Don't get me wrong I've forgotten more about older harleys than most in here ever knew evo's and particularly twink's don't appeal to me , I'm not knocking them .
Thanks you to the 4 usual suspects who picked up on that little detail and actually said something pertaining to it and you guys know who you are
And for you peeps who don't care for the " Twinkie " destination I suggest you take a man pill and get over it as that one's about set in stone , I didn't invent the term just use it where it fits and it surely does fit them .
Thanks you to the 4 usual suspects who picked up on that little detail and actually said something pertaining to it and you guys know who you are
And for you peeps who don't care for the " Twinkie " destination I suggest you take a man pill and get over it as that one's about set in stone , I didn't invent the term just use it where it fits and it surely does fit them .
Up in till.......?.....dunno.....'05-'06 model yr.....bikes were assembled by a 2 person team......3rd person done the hand-apply'd paint/stripes...
Paint match'd frame.....
'Specific' paint color(s).....hand apply'd/striped(good paint dude could duplicate,and have.....)
Lot'a 'X'tras' like grips,pegs,all'at sh*t , that......at least for the 1st yr,average Joe ain't gonna go in an' buy it over parts counter.....without a VIN #.....an'they won't buy the tins,period.(good paint dude comes in, here.....)and some 'other' parts....anyways....
Decent wheels,specific ta each model.....
Factory Big Bore's.......(110's now.....still got'a spend azzload on ta get ta run decent.....EPA sh*t.....)
This'n.....'long with all'a other 'CVO' stuff.......dual front rotors.....lower'n kit(my seat height's 24"....UNladen...) Wide Tire/Swingarm kit(180 vs 160) Factory Alarm......all chrome front end,etc,etc...is whut it is.....ain't hand built from ground up like yer Shovel but.....I like it,for now......
Price?......everbody bitchs/moans 'bout the 'price'.....they'll spend at least the diff from the stock bikes try'n ta 'get'em there'.....more,usually.....
lI'd never pay the sticker for 1 o' these things new....local dude bought this
thing when new,locally.....an' paid.....?.....30K,think.....I paid $18,267.00 in '07 when it book'd for about 20.......think still books fer...?.....'round 17,or 'least at's whut I pay fek'n x'cise tax on.....
FWIW......it ain' a 'CVO' off the floor that'll run with 'at 93" ya got......110 or not,or 'least......not without dump'n 7K or more in 1......my .02.....
kind'a like sumbody else said......basically the diff from buy'n a Mustang GT......or a Cobra.....
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Twist. If you were to grab a HD bling catalog and pick out almost every shinny thing and put it on a bike it would be a CVO. They generally have larger displacement but still have EPA cams. Its my belief they do not have an up graded bottom end. The only thing interesting about them for me is the painted frame. If they had a SE drive train to start with I thing it might be a good place to start but all that shinny **** makes me want to throw up. Cant wait to pull up to one and show em nothing but my tail light!
Well I rec'n with all'a chrome an' 'shiny' on'at Shovel of his,along with the 93" monster (with Siftons in'ere,I'm only guess'n.....) of a Shovel engine.....It'd be a ......CVO......?........
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Talking about Knuckles, years ago I went to a All Harley's drag race.
Two kids in their early 20's were cleaning up a 1947 Knuckle that had a For Sale sign on it.
I asked them about the bike and they were clueless and gave off the vibe of either a stolen bike or selling an uncle's or grandpappy's bike without permission.
Two kids in their early 20's were cleaning up a 1947 Knuckle that had a For Sale sign on it.
I asked them about the bike and they were clueless and gave off the vibe of either a stolen bike or selling an uncle's or grandpappy's bike without permission.
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I don't think I would spend the money on cvo when lesser models that were modified would be about the same. I'm talking just performance wise not prestige wise. I'm looking at the glides but ain't paying for a fancy one when a plain jane with some acc.s will do just fine on long hauls with the mrs.
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CVOs used to be limited models only owned by a few fortunate riders.
Not so much now, as they are fairly abundant and accessible to anyone with the $$$.
Now that description is owned by Shovel riders.
And Evo riders are getting there too. (you really should try out an Evo, TwiZt. You may be suprised
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Not so much now, as they are fairly abundant and accessible to anyone with the $$$.
Now that description is owned by Shovel riders.
And Evo riders are getting there too. (you really should try out an Evo, TwiZt. You may be suprised
)
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Twisted, I read all these posts and my brain went off on a tangent but I think you asked about the A's and B' s in the twinkiespeak. A's go in Dynas and Touring B's go in the Softails. As far as I know the B's have a counterbalance on the crank so they don't shake so much at the lights but they vibrate on the run and the A's are rubber mounted milkshakers.
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. My bike a culmination of 30 plus years of ownership and a bad habit of not leaving anything alone .So what I'm picking up from all this is the MoCo mothership is pulling it's usual jump a bandwagon tactic and started marketing a factory stock already customized bike to the great lilac soap smelling masses so they don't have to touch it themselves ? Am I getting that right ?
Harley has a long history of watching what people do to new bikes and low and behold within a couple years they drop a new model on the market with all the popular mods as stock , like the blackout craze .