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Old May 8, 2013 | 05:11 PM
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I decided to flush the brakes on my recently-purchased '07 Deluxe. They both seemed to perform fine, but I didn't know if the original owner had ever changed the fluid, plus I wanted to install Speed Bleeders. Work on rear went smoothly, installed SB, pumped most of a bottle of DOT4 thru, closed it up. HOWEVER, on the front brake, I installed the SB, backed it off the prescribed amount, opened the master cylinder, added a bit of DOT4 to bring level up, then started pumping the lever. There was a trivial bit of flow out of the SB, then NOTHING! No matter how much I pumped, no flow, not even any feeling of resistance in the lever.

I'm not much of a wrench, just enjoy taking care of my own. So I'm asking y'all: What am I missing here? Could the system be blocked somehow/somewhere?
 
Old May 8, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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Sounds like the speed bleeder is either malfunctioning or clogged. Take I'd off and clean it with brake cleaner and try again.
 
Old May 8, 2013 | 05:55 PM
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Or, try it again with the stock bleeder. If all works with the old bleeder in , you have a bad sb.,,
 
Old May 8, 2013 | 06:05 PM
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PBart,

This is a maintenance job that I have always wanted to do myself but have been hesitant to mess with for fear of screwing something up. Exactly what are the steps of installing a speed bleeder and what advantage does it provide? Dealers charge you a bundle for this simple job so I would like to know how easy it really is to do myself.

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Old May 8, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hoethree
...Exactly what are the steps of installing a speed bleeder and what advantage does it provide?...
Installation is pretty straightforward:
1. Clean the area around the old bleeder screw.
2. Remove old bleeder screw and discard.
3. Screw in the Speed Bleeder until it seats.
4. Attach a piece of drain tubing, and unscrew Speed Bleeder 1/4-1/2 turn.
5. Slowly pump brake pedal/lever about 4-5 times.
6. After bubble-free fluid comes out of Speed Bleeder, close it down until it seats.

Main advantage I guess is it lets you bleed brakes easily and without requiring two people.
 

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[quote=chopNdrop;11268948]Sounds like the speed bleeder is either malfunctioning or clogged...[quote]

Hmm... but why would there be no feeling of resistance at the lever?
 
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If you get air in the system, you will have a very mushy feeling. I bought a mighty-vac from Harbor Freight and it worked well before I bought speed bleeders.
 
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Old May 8, 2013 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PPBART
I decided to flush the brakes on my recently-purchased '07 Deluxe. They both seemed to perform fine, but I didn't know if the original owner had ever changed the fluid, plus I wanted to install Speed Bleeders. Work on rear went smoothly, installed SB, pumped most of a bottle of DOT4 thru, closed it up. HOWEVER, on the front brake, I installed the SB, backed it off the prescribed amount, opened the master cylinder, added a bit of DOT4 to bring level up, then started pumping the lever. There was a trivial bit of flow out of the SB, then NOTHING! No matter how much I pumped, no flow, not even any feeling of resistance in the lever.

I'm not much of a wrench, just enjoy taking care of my own. So I'm asking y'all: What am I missing here? Could the system be blocked somehow/somewhere?
I'll try to explain this as best I can. I had the exact same problem with my front brake. The most important thing is to make sure the master cylinder doesn't get empty. Ok, here is what you do. Get a My-T-Vac, put the tube on the bleeder, pump it up to 30-40 psi, THEN open the bleeder. Whatever is blocking the line will come out. Be sure to close the bleeder while there is still pressure or you'll get air in the line. Once again, make sure there is plenty of fluid in the MC. Please keep us informed.
 
Old May 8, 2013 | 08:22 PM
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One more thing. When you're all done it wouldn't hurt to squeeze the brake lever and wrap a bungee cord around the lever and grip and leave there over night. Somehow this brings all the air bubbles to the surface in the MC and firms up a mushy lever......really it does work.
 



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