Engine difference
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Big cah I Agree with I been on so many bikes even the 110 is a dog. If u spend some money on the 88 u have now u will be super happy with the turn out its just all depends on how crazy u want to get with the budget... If u want to keep budget low a cam only upgrade would help and a 95inch on top of that be even better and of course lastly going all out witch would be cams new heads and bigger pistons
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Big cah I Agree with I been on so many bikes even the 110 is a dog. If u spend some money on the 88 u have now u will be super happy with the turn out its just all depends on how crazy u want to get with the budget... If u want to keep budget low a cam only upgrade would help and a 95inch on top of that be even better and of course lastly going all out witch would be cams new heads and bigger pistons
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I just found a screaming eagle 110 crate motor and they wanted 3900$ for it but they said it fits a 2007 and up. That's why I was wondering the difference. At the local dealer they said it would cost me about 4000 to go to a 95 with head work and all the stuff that go with it.
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I just found a screaming eagle 110 crate motor and they wanted 3900$ for it but they said it fits a 2007 and up. That's why I was wondering the difference. At the local dealer they said it would cost me about 4000 to go to a 95 with head work and all the stuff that go with it.
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I just found a screaming eagle 110 crate motor and they wanted 3900$ for it but they said it fits a 2007 and up. That's why I was wondering the difference. At the local dealer they said it would cost me about 4000 to go to a 95 with head work and all the stuff that go with it.
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the 95inch jugs are 500$ with pistons and cams are 300$ often harley gives 15-20% off parts. My dealer told me 950$ labor for cams and big piston kit. I would say with a tune and all 2000-2500$ tops 4000$ that they told u is insane
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There are two different things, mentioned here in some reactions. The upgrade to a bigger engine was not done for nothing. The bikes became more heavier than they have ever been. The torque of the bike is responsible for the acceleration, not the developed HP's. 'Power' can be developed in two ways: with a low torque and high rpm (most Japanese engines) or with a high torque and a low rpm (Harley, Indian most air-cooled V-twins of the USA)
The high rpm - low torque requires a rather 'nervous' operation of the throttle to keep the rpm's high and to produce in this way the hp's.
This demands a lot of engine heat to be destroyed, because the Shanky diagram of a reciprocating engine indicates a lot of heat lost in heating the engine (cylinders, oil sump etc)
This heat has to be destroyed or it will destroy the engine. Water cooling is the only option.
A 'low rpm - high torque' engine develops the same hp', only less nervous. The torque is developed to accelerate the bike, to have much 'force' up hills and with 2 persons on the bike. The competition with the Japanese bikes gave the demand for bigger engines, not to be 'out rided' by the Japanese rice cookers. The torque was increased by bigger bores and longer strokes to develop more torque to increase the hp's, still at a low rpm.
The question is, is it obligatory to compete with other bikes or does Harley has it own 'character'? I personally ride app. 12,000 miles per year, in flat terrain and in mountainous countries as well. My 88B has enough torque to bring us both with acceptable speed with a fully loaded Heritage to the highest mountains. The Japanese are indeed overtaking us, but we are still riding when we meet them aside of the road, full with pain in their backs..
The high rpm - low torque requires a rather 'nervous' operation of the throttle to keep the rpm's high and to produce in this way the hp's.
This demands a lot of engine heat to be destroyed, because the Shanky diagram of a reciprocating engine indicates a lot of heat lost in heating the engine (cylinders, oil sump etc)
This heat has to be destroyed or it will destroy the engine. Water cooling is the only option.
A 'low rpm - high torque' engine develops the same hp', only less nervous. The torque is developed to accelerate the bike, to have much 'force' up hills and with 2 persons on the bike. The competition with the Japanese bikes gave the demand for bigger engines, not to be 'out rided' by the Japanese rice cookers. The torque was increased by bigger bores and longer strokes to develop more torque to increase the hp's, still at a low rpm.
The question is, is it obligatory to compete with other bikes or does Harley has it own 'character'? I personally ride app. 12,000 miles per year, in flat terrain and in mountainous countries as well. My 88B has enough torque to bring us both with acceptable speed with a fully loaded Heritage to the highest mountains. The Japanese are indeed overtaking us, but we are still riding when we meet them aside of the road, full with pain in their backs..