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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Thumper09
I think modular headlights are illegal in Florida. understandably I think too because I could see how it would distract oncoming drivers. Plus, seeing how it's human nature to go where you look, I wouldn't want oncoming traffic to be so focused looking at the blinking lights coming. People might inadvertently cross over the yellow line and into my lane.
Headlight modulators are 50 states legal. Whether or not the LEO's know this, is another issue. Print the section out and carry it with you. It has to do with the Federal Motor Vehicle safety standards. Those standards can't be over-riden by state law either.
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FMVSS 108 (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) (49 CFR Part 571.108 S7.9.4) allows motorcycle headlight modulation systems in all 50 states provided they comply with the standards set forth in this section.

Headlight Modulation is in paragraph S7.9.4.

Title 49 USC 30103(b1) (US Codes) prohibits any state from forbidding a system that conforms to FMVSS 108.
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lionsm13
Headlight modulators are 50 states legal. Whether or not the LEO's know this, is another issue. Print the section out and carry it with you. It has to do with the Federal Motor Vehicle safety standards. Those standards can't be over-riden by state law either.
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FMVSS 108 (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) (49 CFR Part 571.108 S7.9.4) allows motorcycle headlight modulation systems in all 50 states provided they comply with the standards set forth in this section.

Headlight Modulation is in paragraph S7.9.4.

Title 49 USC 30103(b1) (US Codes) prohibits any state from forbidding a system that conforms to FMVSS 108.
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Yes, modulators are 50 state legal but some bum *** with anger in his eyes only sees a flashing "visual horn" that translates to an extended middle finger.
 
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Thumper09
I think modular headlights are illegal in Florida. understandably I think too because I could see how it would distract oncoming drivers. Plus, seeing how it's human nature to go where you look, I wouldn't want oncoming traffic to be so focused looking at the blinking lights coming. People might inadvertently cross over the yellow line and into my lane.
federal law allows for headlight modulation.

49 CFR Part 571.108 S7.9.4

A motorcycle headlamp may be wired to allow either its upper beam or its lower beam, but not both, to modulate from a higher intensity to a lower intensity in accordance with section S5.6;

florida law as of 2007 states:
title 23 Chapter 316 STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL 316.405
Any person who operates a motorcycle or motor-driven cycle on the public streets or highways shall, while so engaged, have the headlight or headlights of such motorcycle or motor-driven cycle turned on. Failure to comply with this section during the hours from sunrise to sunset, unless compliance is otherwise required by law, shall not be admissible as evidence of negligence in a civil action. During the hours of operation between sunrise and sunset, the headlights may modulate either the upper beam or the lower beam from its maximum intensity to a lower intensity, in accordance with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 571.108.
 
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by upflying
Yes, modulators are 50 state legal but some bum *** with anger in his eyes only sees a flashing "visual horn" that translates to an extended middle finger.
Again, I really don't care too much about pissing people off.
I want to be seen and heard as opposed to being a statistic as a result of a texter being distracted.
I don't care if I'm politically correct, or not.

My pipes are fairly loud too, straight 09 head -pipe, no catalytic converter and Rinehart 3.5's slip-ons.
I've noticed it gets people to roll up their windows from time to time, and ya know what? I really don't care about that either, about interfering with someone's cell phone conversation.

When I am riding I am trying to stay alive, and if I annoy a few thin skinned people, well they would be annoyed anyway.
So be it.
 
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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I don't know much about them but would like to know more...Are they a plug n play type item or are there other things that need to be changed when making the swap..And my luck will b spend the $400 on it and it will burn out in a month and I am sure there is no warranty on it, so I would b out the $$$...Someone told me there is no warranty once installed but they sure are nice...
Easy instal, I can't say all of them are easy but the ones I did were plug and play. I think there is no warranty on anything electrical that Harley makes.
 
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lionsm13
Headlight modulators are 50 states legal. Whether or not the LEO's know this, is another issue. Print the section out and carry it with you. It has to do with the Federal Motor Vehicle safety standards. Those standards can't be over-riden by state law either.
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FMVSS 108 (Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards) (49 CFR Part 571.108 S7.9.4) allows motorcycle headlight modulation systems in all 50 states provided they comply with the standards set forth in this section.

Headlight Modulation is in paragraph S7.9.4.

Title 49 USC 30103(b1) (US Codes) prohibits any state from forbidding a system that conforms to FMVSS 108.
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Originally Posted by slozomby
federal law allows for headlight modulation.

49 CFR Part 571.108 S7.9.4

A motorcycle headlamp may be wired to allow either its upper beam or its lower beam, but not both, to modulate from a higher intensity to a lower intensity in accordance with section S5.6;

florida law as of 2007 states:
title 23 Chapter 316 STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL 316.405
Any person who operates a motorcycle or motor-driven cycle on the public streets or highways shall, while so engaged, have the headlight or headlights of such motorcycle or motor-driven cycle turned on. Failure to comply with this section during the hours from sunrise to sunset, unless compliance is otherwise required by law, shall not be admissible as evidence of negligence in a civil action. During the hours of operation between sunrise and sunset, the headlights may modulate either the upper beam or the lower beam from its maximum intensity to a lower intensity, in accordance with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 571.108.

I was going to say it but you two said it first...and you even gave him the CFR & Florida statute info...bravo

EDIT: BTW after doing some reading and watching a few review videos I noticed that Kuryakyn offers a 3 year warranty on their Phase 7 Headlight and Fog lights. Total price on Amazon for all three lights is about $400. Not too shabby.
 

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^^ yes, pretty detailed response. Thank you.
 
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lionsm13
"and if I annoy a few thin skinned people, well they would be annoyed anyway. So be it."
You've set the dumbest crap of the week bar pretty high with that. But then again maybe I'm biased because I hate people with flashing lights on their bikes as much as I hate the ******* construction workers think their flashing lights are for driving down the road, but it's okay I get to flash my high beams on and off till the pass me so it's kinda fun.

As far as the guy that asked about the $320 daymaker look on surdyke or the such.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGood
You've set the dumbest crap of the week bar pretty high with that. But then again maybe I'm biased because I hate people with flashing lights on their bikes as much as I hate the ******* construction workers think their flashing lights are for driving down the road, but it's okay I get to flash my high beams on and off till the pass me so it's kinda fun. .
Not out to impress you one way or the other MrGood. (really)
I'm annoyed with people like you as well.

Maybe you should go to the H O G forum where everyone is politically correct?
 
Old Feb 24, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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I appreciate all the info, took the opinions into account, and now would like to know how the Kuryakn Phase 7 compares with the Daymaker? Anyone?
 



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